Next in the BDR series - AZBDR

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by eakins, May 8, 2013.

  1. wbbnm

    wbbnm Long timer

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    Were you able to keep the bike upright coming down the hill? I have told a few people that I think the hill is makeable coming down on a big loaded bike, but I don't know since I have never done it. And likely never will.
  2. pfdskipper

    pfdskipper Westside Trash

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    I would imagine the Pioneer pass on the south side of Pinal peak is the pass in question. Certainly not 13,000 ,but if you're on a big bike it can be as challenging as many of the higher trails in Colorado. Seems like it was 6000 ', IIRC. Its just south of Globe, south to north is most difficult direction of travel.
  3. MT_ROKZ

    MT_ROKZ Been here awhile

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    When do you plan on riding this, Nov? How late in the year is the route rideable?
  4. AZ Africa Twin

    AZ Africa Twin From the AZ High Country

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    I was considering riding it in early November, around Veterans Day Holiday, as I would be working south towards the warmer weather and hopefully before any snow
  5. Kung Fury

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    If you’re talking about the hill near the top of Gray Mountain, I went up it a few days ago on an F800GS. I did remove the panniers though. I did make it up, but I wouldn’t be in a hurry to do it again. I did the track from the Utah border to Young, spent a couple of days south of Young, I took the easier alternate but decided it wasn’t a good idea on my F800GS. My back was hurting from picking up the bike multiple times. Butler really should update their map. I spent many miles bouncing off rocks. Not big bike friendly at all.
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  6. AZ Africa Twin

    AZ Africa Twin From the AZ High Country

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    I came down the hill at Grey Mt. I did not expect it to be that rough. It was 8 min of bouncing around just keeping the front wheel pointed down hill and cussing all the way. I know it was 8 min because I had turned on the Go-Pro at the top. Glad it did not pick up on the sound of me and my numerous "Oh Shit!" and other expletives. Looking forward to doing the rest of the route around Veterans day as the weather up here has been great and unusually warm.

    Did the section from Bitter Springs back to 80 near the Rt 89 & Rt 160 intersection, yesterday. The roads on that section of the reservation were fantastic as were the views. IMG_0436.JPG
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  7. redrock88

    redrock88 Been here awhile

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    That's one reason I don't want to use a headset/sena w/my friends. All my cursing. And bad singing.
  8. Kung Fury

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    Bitter Springs to Cameron was nice riding, tough navigation but nice riding. I wouldn't think it would be possible without checking a GPS often. fork in the road.jpg
  9. Kung Fury

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    The roads 10 to 15 miles north of Long Lake are fairly rocky, a lot of bouncing around. I was heading South, from Long Lake down to Young was extremely smooth. From Young I took the easy alternative route, once I met back up with the main route, I got about 12 miles into it before turning around, the road is washed out in too many sections. Maybe on a much smaller bike it would be doable for me, but not on a large bike. That road isn't being maintained, rocks, ruts, washed out sections, the decision to go back wasn't easy, but what was ahead was downright dangerous.
  10. AZ Africa Twin

    AZ Africa Twin From the AZ High Country

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    That could put a cramp in my plans for finishing the BDR in November.

    Did you happen to get any photos of the rough section? DCWilcox on his recent post "The Project Trip" also indicated that it was rough and that he considered turning around. But the pics did not look that bad and most dirt roads in AZ are pretty rough.

    Also on the Bitter Springs section of the BDR:

    I started out on just a turn off outside of Bitter Springs and probably NOT the one the BDR suggested. You are right, I had to confirm with the GPS where I was and were I was headed. I don't usually use it as much as I did on this section but with so many cut offs and very few road sign I was glad I had it with me.

    It was also reassuring to see bike tracks on the same route.

    If it was you that left them for me, many thanks!
  11. Kung Fury

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    Snapshot 1 (10-30-2017 6-55 PM).png


    Here's a photo of a difficult section, but not the most difficult section. I don't think the photo really does it justice, the banks on the creek were fairly steep, and after the creek you have to go on the left side of the large boulder near the top left of the photo. I went fairly slow and my rear tire dug in on the bank on the far side. If it wasn't the tight turn and the steep banks I think it wouldn't have been an issue. I was 5 days into the ride at the time, so fatigue was an issue for me. I found the road in that section to be rocky, but the real problem when you turned towards the hill, there were several sections that required a really tight turn, over rocks on a washed out section of the road. For sure I'm not super skilled, but I made it up Grey Mountain, and had fun over the Coconino Rim Road. Two guys on dirt bikes were a bit surprised to see anyone on a bike my size down there, but they were cool about it. They rated this turn a 2, with a 10 a mile or so down the road. I didn't get a photo of the 10, but it wasn't my day as far as my riding skills were. On my way out there were a few hunters about 1/3 mile from the hwy, they told me that the road wasn't that bad a few months ago, but a few monsoons in the late summer washed out parts and it hadn't been repaired. Don't let my comments stop you, but I would say keep an open mind going into it, you know better than I do what you are capable of handling. Also, that day I had realized that I coolant leaking out of the weep hole on my water pump, I was going to have to end my trip anyway, or push through knowing that my water pump may give out in a remote location. I was riding solo. Maybe there are some other sources on the internet that a better reports of the condition of the road.

    I had recently put on a brand new set of TKC 80's, if my tracks helped you out, you're welcome. The turn I took from Bitter Springs was a bit south of Bitter Springs, almost directly across from some Navajo women selling jewelry at a few stands set up along the road.
  12. wbbnm

    wbbnm Long timer

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    I think the correct BDR turn is about 3 miles south of Bitter Springs. I couldn't see any map roads directly out of BS that would meet up with the BDR route. But having been thru that area several times I know there are lots of roads that don't show up on maps.
  13. AZ Africa Twin

    AZ Africa Twin From the AZ High Country

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    I missed the road on the way north so I just made a right after turning around in Bitter Springs, I crossed a cattle guard near the large cut/wash that cuts into the rock face on the opposite side of Rt 89. My delay was caused by being on the north side of Tiger Wash, which turns into a very deep canyon and having to get around it. But of course I had to find a view point to see it. After that , I just kept heading south towards Shinumo Altar. Am used to navigating by terrain and compass, and being lost on an ADV bike is part of it. Most of those roads end up somewhere interesting or run together, so other than the delay it was not a problem.
  14. Elmer

    Elmer Been here awhile

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    Heads up for the Sonoita to Benson section. I rode the southernmost two sections yesterday starting from Coronado National Forest visitor station. I've spent lots of time riding in the Las Cienega area, but yesterday, while on the AZ BDR routing, I came upon a posted sign and locked gate. It was just after the long sandy wash as the road turns north to cross the ridgeline on the way to I-10. I didn't want to go back down the wash and didn't want to ride Hwy 83 so I worked my way east to find an alternate route to I-10. I did make it east and north and eventually back to I-10 but the route is NOT big bike friendly. As a matter of fact, it was pretty technical in spots. Great ride though!
  15. wbbnm

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    Sounds like the power line road. Did you cross a stream and a pond? There used to be a "No Motorized" sign going down the hill to the stream valley.
  16. swimmer

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    Anyone have any more recent input on this possible locked gate, closed road in section 2?