Next in the BDR series - CABDR

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by eakins, Jul 3, 2017.

  1. eakins

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  2. dcwilcox

    dcwilcox Been here awhile

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    Cool! I'll be checking it out as info becomes available!
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  3. Motomochila

    Motomochila Moto Scientist and time traveler

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    I'm up for scouting. Anything south of Mammoth down through Cal City is my weekly playground.
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  4. NSFW

    NSFW basecamp4adv

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    This is great.

    Eaks, please let me know if I can help.

    I'm sure there are more if we can get those locked gates open.
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  5. Little Bike

    Little Bike Air/Clutz Sue

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    Yay! Counting the days, I've been really looking forward to this route.
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  6. Kingfish

    Kingfish Adventurer

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    Watching and waiting to see how this all unfolds. Super exciting!
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  7. Rips Millar

    Rips Millar capt. mediocre

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    YAY!!!!

    WOULDN'T A LOOP BE COOL? (MAKES LOGISTICS OF GETTING BIKES TO/FROM START MORE DOABLE)
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  8. eakins

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    They're working on it

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  9. eakins

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    It's always point to point.
    Some just reverse it and experience it in reverse. Others have created return loops.
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  10. Countdown

    Countdown Long timer

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    We started this idea with legislation in California well over 40 years ago. It started as the Statewide Motorized Trail System (SMTS), then OHV Commission changed it to the Back Country Discovery Routes.

    See full history on http://www.smts.info/

    The system has North/South routes 1 (Coast range) , 3 (West side Sierras), 5 (East side Sierras), 7 (West Mojave), & 9 (East Mojave) and East/West Routes 2 (Mojave Raod), 4, 6, & 8 (Along Oregon Border). Just like the National Interstate Highway System.

    Oregon copied our same numbering system probably in the 80's. They have long Rts 3 & 5 plus 2 & 4 connectors.

    Full GPS Tracks of both systems are available now on http://www.gpsxchange.com/ in Private Libraries.

    Jerry
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  11. RonSJC

    RonSJC Been here awhile

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    Once completed it may be possible to combine the CABDR East with the southern half of the NVBDR to create a near loop for one epic ride.

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  12. Countdown

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    That is the whole point of a System vs a linear trail. There are plenty of linear ones, Pacific Crest Quest, Great Western Trail, and the Continental Divide Ride plus al the BDRs. If you want a really big loop, combine any two of these with the "Northern Route" and the "Southern Route".

    If you want a reasonable loop of any size for any amount of days, just combine your choice of gas to gas Track segments from the California, Oregon, Nevada, Idaho, Utah, and Arizona/New Mexico Statewide Motorized Trail Systems.

    An example are the many multi-day loops I pulled together at: http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/northeren-nevada-multi-day-rides.1263080/#post-33520753
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  13. eakins

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    More info coming soon

    Ps we're heading to Long Beach right now for the IMS show. We will be in the Adventure Out section. Stop by we'd love to meet ya!

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  14. RonSJC

    RonSJC Been here awhile

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    See you there!


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  15. RonSJC

    RonSJC Been here awhile

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    More eye candy from the proposed CABDR[​IMG]


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  16. MeefZah

    MeefZah Curmudgeonly

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    My understanding was that the Ca government sanctioned "BDR" (not to be confused with the BDR routes) program ended due to "environmental concerns" about too many people / 4x4s / etc using and trashing the land. I've seen a handful of BDR signs in the Shasta-Trinity NF but most have been badly decayed or knocked down. Is this not accurate?

    From NF 23 in the Shasta-Trinity:

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  17. RonSJC

    RonSJC Been here awhile

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    Several of the National Forests have developed routes and guides, although I believe the initial funding was in part through OHV grants administered by the State Parks. There are still several great guides available through the forest service, but as with everything, funding for maintaining trail signage is lacking, but the routes still exist.

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  18. Apple Jam

    Apple Jam Forest Flyer

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    We have pretty much the exact story in Oregon. They suddenly appear to be closer related than any of us knew or remembered. Neat. The signs match exactly.

    It started here like 1991? I read here maybe? and then was shot down in greenie court after signs were all installed and brochures printed. Then I'm sure another fortune was spent to remove the signs. As far as I know, two signs still exist in Oregon. This one, right at the very beginning of Route 5, up the hill from Cave Lake and barely North of the OR/CA border....

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    and another one somewhere near the nasty rock garden North of Riley,...I've heard.


    It was 100+ degrees hot and past 5pm when Route 5 brought me from Christmas Valley to Riley for gas in 2011. Four of our group wanted to keep going. Screw that :puke1. So Jungle Man, Asrvivor (in pic above) and I skipped that rock garden section, and busted it up to Delintment lake on easy gravel and had a GREAT evening by the beautiful lake. The other riders showed up about 10pm with stories of woe, flats, and lots-n-lots-n-lots of rocks.
    Glad I frikkin missed it back then (n00b).
    I wanna go back now :evil
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  19. Apple Jam

    Apple Jam Forest Flyer

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    Damn, Eakins, those shots are worth repeating.
    Now I'm confused. Ride Oregon,...California,,,???

    I know,...Cali in February,...Oregon in September :clap
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  20. avejoe

    avejoe Been here awhile

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    Ok. It's 2018. I thought it might change. Alas, I guess I have to keep saying it.

    All the BDR routes are awesome and eakins and crew do a great job. I'm really quite jealous because two of my favorite things are maps and motorcycles. Anybody know if they are hiring?

    As a 5th generation Californian, I am quite proud of the state I live in. Yes, we are an eclectic bunch with our politics and all. I think it is unarguable our geographic diversity in unmatched.

    I believe I speak for all California adv riders by saying we are eagerly waiting to see the new route!

    I do have one little request. You've heard the saying "when in Rome..."? Well we would really appreciate it if you NEVER REFER TO CALIFORNIA AS "CALI".

    If you struggle with spelling "California" (there are lots of letters in it, right?), the abbreviation "CA" is very acceptable.

    Thank you for your cooperation.
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