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Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Tallbastid, Oct 2, 2012.
They always say that to make you feel better.
Yeah, shoot for invoice + factory incentives.
On the Titans I payed 10K off on one, and 12.5K off on the other. Do not expect to get that kind of deal on the Frontier.
I'm sure. He was going on about what a deal it was when I asked him what his holdback was on it. He clammed right up after that.
My general thought on buying a new vehicle pricing...
OTD price should be around sticker. discounts = taxes, fees, registration (first year anyway). This can vary greatly depending on local markets. I know some states you pay dearly for the first year registration, others it is only a few bucks.
Some can do better, others can't. Depends on the deal. I could care less for what someone claims they negoatiated the price to, it is what the out the door price that matters to me. I would have to find the paperwork to know for sure, but the Xterra was upper 20s. That included the first year registration that was several hundred bucks.
Yeah, that's what I mean, OTD price. I intend to go around with my money in hand offering XXXXX for OTD until I get a hit. If I dont get it, I'll wait a month. I worked sales long enough to know a few tactics, and I frankly want no part of it.
no experience with nissan, but I do have the 2012 tacoma. Its 4x4 4cyl 5spd access cab.
depending on how you drive it I get up to 25mpg with it (cruise at 60 on the highway) but in combined city and freeway commuting (3 miles in city, 18 miles freeway at 75ish each way) I get 21mpg. Im a little guy (5'9") and have a lot of room in the cab behind me - the seats do go pretty far back but at 6'8" it may be a stretch. The 5spd is pretty good, but the automatic I test drove was also good. Supposedly the auto is better on highway but it does like to downshift alot so i tend to doubt it.
If it comes down to looks, I really don't care for the nissan, while I saw the 2012 taco new front end and that put me over the top compared to the old model. It looks pissed
I like it on the whole - considering my new job is a lot of travel, I really should have bought a Golf TDI, but I guess hindsight is 20/20. I really do like the truck and plan to keep it a long time. Wether or not this helps, I dont know.
It does, thanks. I'm still thinking of a 4 cyl Tacoma, just like the one you have. 25mpg sounds awesome, and I'm willing to drive with less power to get there. So far, it just seems like you get more truck for your cash with Nissan. Gonna test drive a couple this weekend I hope. Driving a 2005 civic coupe for the time being, feels like a clown car, but it works. If I can make that work I think I'll be able to make either of these trucks work. Got offers a new tundra access cab 4x4 for $26k otd but the mileage is crap and I don't need the power.
Remember to factor resale into that equation.
I have; though I am trying for ten years from this truck, so resale isn't very important to me. Everything I've read leads to a coin flip in reliabiltiy between the two, which is my #1 concern.
All my referece is to the 4.0 V6. I know there is a 2WD 2.5L option in the king cab frontiers. The 4-cylinder can only be had in the lower trim levels, but I remember it is possible to get it with the basic nice things (cruise, power windows, key fob), but not the top of the line stereo and other upgraded things. Don't know much more then that, I always looked at the V6 to fill my power needs. I wanted enough power to pull the boat and live close enough to work that gas mileage isn't that big of a deal on a daily basis.
I'd buy another one right now for that kind of money. I've had a 2005 4x4 since new. It's been a pretty good truck. Aside from a preventative radiator replacement and a few other little issues, I'm pleased. Front drive shaft ujoints on mine went out at 90,000 and the rears weren't far behind. The engine is awesome.
Remember the Suzuki is the same truck but with a better warranty
2011 Pro 4X little cab here. Got it brand new and it has about 16,000 miles on it. Driving around my small town I see about 18mpg, driving in San Diego traffic I saw closer to 16mpg. Loaded down with Two guys, all their gear and two dirt bike I got 19mpg between here and Moab. My trip from here to Cabo saw me with an average of mid 18's mpg wise and that included that San Diego driving. I love it, but do feel like some others have mention that it gives up a little in fit and finish to my 2001 Toyota Tundra, but that thing reeeeally had shit mileage with about the same power. The seats do stain easily but as a "dirty" person and dog owner who really cares it's a truck. Overall I'm happy with my experience so far.
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The utilitrac is awesome for up to three bikes. or two and a weekends gear.
My 2010 frontier 4 dr has been great- about 18 mpg, good room for 4, much quicker than others in the class. Very good for the light off roading I do.
Approaching 32K miles. Would do it again.
If possible, hit the dealership on the last day of the month!
Sales goals and all ya' know!!!
It can work out well at times.
Assuming that you have Suzuki dealer support nearby and that they don't pull out of the US car market.
I know that even though the Ranger and later model Mazda's were the exact same truck, some Ford dealers were kind of difficult about dealing with the Mazdas.
I test drove a Frontier last year, and really, really liked it. If I hadn't had my heart set on owning a Jeep Wrangler, I'd probably be driving a Frontier right now.
Yeah, for the reasons mentioned above, I'm going to stay away from the Suzuki. I'm (hopefully) moving this Spring, and the chances are much better for a toyota/Nissan dealership to be close by than Suzuki. I'm driving the Nissan today, a 2010 V6 king cab 4x4 M/T.... trying to book a ride in the equivalent taco right after it to do a true back to back.
Anyone care to add anything new about the 2012+ trucks?
I've heard the truck is being redesigned for 2015. Rummer is a uni-body design?
So...it's been about a year and a half since the thread left off...What did you end up going with?