No-Can_Do can't title dirtbike in WY, even if plated in MI already

Discussion in 'The Rockies – It's all downhill from here...' started by JayDub, Dec 5, 2017.

  1. AndyT

    AndyT Been here awhile

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    They are trying to keep people from going to Oregon, which has no sales tax, to buy vehicles and bringing them into WA. Good or bad, there is some reasoning there.
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  2. JayDub

    JayDub Havin Fun

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    Wow, Lord Dogmeat and Zpooch I don't know how they did that for you but I guess it's up to the county clerk. My CRF has a street title in Michigan but WY won't honor it in Goshen County. When I talked with the WYDOT guy in Cheyenne he said it doesn't matter what other states did but said you can't register dirt bikes here if the VIN comes back to a dirt bike and there is no DOT sticker on the frame saying it met DOT standards. STRANGE.
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  3. dodgerdodger

    dodgerdodger Acountabilabuddy

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    Hmmmmm, i grew up in SD, parents still live there. Already have a WR426 anf XR6 plated here in CO.......but, could be cool to plate a YZ250F........
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  4. Cowboy

    Cowboy Ceteris non Paribus

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    Just a suggestion based on my experience: Wyoming allows you to register your bike in any county, no matter where you live in the state. Go try to re-title the bike in Albany County and get your plates there. I bought a DRZe model that had been titled in Colorado, and had no trouble getting a new title in Albany County. They never mentioned anything about the fact that it was not DOT legal from the factory. It's been a few years, though, so something in the law may have changed since then. Their computer system may have gotten better at finding that sort of problem. It also might be my luck, because I knew nearly everybody who worked in the Clerk's office in Laramie. (Actually, I know a bunch of them in Torrington too.)

    By the way, welcome to Goshen County! I grew up on a ranch near Yoder.
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  5. JayDub

    JayDub Havin Fun

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    Hi Cowboy. My daughter is going to Southeast HS in Yoder: go Cyclones! If you still know some clerks in the office in Torrington, maybe you can ask them to help me :y0!The issue is the VIN inspection. I don't now how long WY has been doing that. The clerk took my Michigan title, verified the VIN on my title with what the sheriff deputy had written down for the VIN inspection, then put that VIN into the computer. The computer told her it was a dirtbike. Also my Michigan title says under mileage "No Odometer" so that was another clue for her. From what I understand you have to title it in the county of residence now too which might be a recent change.

    I decided to download WY statue 31 regarding motor vehicles as this is the codified laws of WY. There they are calling dirt bikes "Off-road recreational vehicles", not to be confused with side by sides or ATVs. It talks about how you can get the MPV plates for the ATVs and side by sides and legally use them even on the traveled portions of roads except for Interstates. It also talks about using snowmobiles on the non-driven portion of the roads with some exceptions allowing them on the traveled portion of the roads. Heaven forbid you drive a dirtbike (or an offroad recreational vehicle as they call it here) on the road because you can't legally. It's in black and white in the statute. See below:

    "Motorcycle" means every motor vehicle having a seat or saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not more than three (3) wheels in contact with the ground but which may have attached thereto a sidecar for the purpose of transporting a single passenger. For the purpose of registration and titling "motorcycle" includes motorized bicycles and scooters, but excludes mopeds, motorized skateboards, multipurpose vehicles and off-road recreational vehicles as defined in subparagraph (K) of this paragraph;
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    (K) "Off‑road recreational vehicle" means:
    (I) A recreational vehicle primarily designed for off-road use which is fifty (50) inches or less in width and has an unladen weight of one thousand one hundred (1,100) pounds or less;
    (II) Any unlicensed motorcycle which has an unladen weight of six hundred (600) pounds or less and is designed to be ridden off road with the operator astride upon a seat or saddle and travels on two (2) tires; and
    (III) Any multi‑wheeled motorized vehicle not required by law to be licensed and is designed for cross‑country travel on or over land, sand, snow, ice or other natural terrain and which has an unladen weight of more than nine hundred (900) pounds.
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    The clincher under "registration exemptions" it says:
    (b) Off-road recreational vehicles shall not be registered.

    I haven't talked the Senator here yet but hope to soon. He hasn't called me back (that I know of because our cell service was down for 2 weeks). If nothing else I'll swing by his local office again in town. Someone in the legislature doesn't like dirt bikes for some reason.

    Jaydub
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  6. no2tracks

    no2tracks Been here awhile

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    So trials bikes don't exist in Wy because they don't have a seat?

    What do the weights have to do with anything?
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  7. enduro16

    enduro16 Been here awhile

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    Hey all states are cracking down now they go by the VIN number goes into a computer it's simple how you spell get done in Illinois I got dirt bikes they're Street licensed but you know what just because I sell them to somebody in a different state doesn't mean that they're going to give him a title because I have a road-legal title for it the days are getting this done or getting harder and harder and almost impossible
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  8. CaseyJones

    CaseyJones Ridin' that train

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    There are better ways. When I brought a beater from Texas to Ohio, 1982, I just had to produce the bill of sale showing that I paid tax on the sale.

    This is what happens when tax rates become ridiculous. People just can't reach in their pockets for $2000 in TAXES; so they try to work around.

    And then the tax-collectors get all Gestapo. Not the individuals so much as the entire system.

    Montana, by comparison and thank all gods, has NO sales tax. And that includes vehicles.
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  9. kbroderick

    kbroderick Long timer

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    Depends on the county for vehicles, and there is a de facto sales tax (aka "Resort Tax") in something like nine municipalities statewide. With that said, it's still a lot less than high-tax states.
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