No more straight gas in Skagit?

Discussion in 'Pacific Northwet - Where it's green. And wet.' started by yondering, Mar 5, 2013.

  1. yondering

    yondering Long timer

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    OK, up until last week, the 76 stations at Cook Rd/I-5 and Hwy 20 in Sedro were selling ethanol-free gas; I've been buying my gas there exclusively for the last couple years for that reason. Last week though, I pull in and see the "contains up to 10% ethanol" sign on the pumps. The station attendant tells me all the other 76 stations have switched to ethanol-contaminated gas too, meaning there's no place left in Skagit County, that I know of, to get straight gas.

    Anyone else notice this, or know of any last holdouts confirmed in the last week or so?
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    I've got some right across the highway here in Oak Harbor. Now if I could only burn some. :lol3
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  5. yondering

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    Keith, have you checked within the last week if they still sell straight gas near you?

    I do know about the pure-gas.org website, and have contributed to it, but the information I heard sounded like a change at the distributor or refinery level, affecting all the 76 (and other?) stations around. This is pretty recent and is not reflected on that website.
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    I would love a straight answer on the pure gas issue. Despite what the website says, I had read in several places that any gas from the refineries in Anacortes, Cherry Point, Ferndale and Tacoma has had ethanol in it for several years. Pure gas is supposed to be more common in Eastern Washington since there are some jobbers/distributors who get gas with no ethanol in it from some refineries in Montana, Utah or Wyoming.

    So for anyplace in Western Washington that sells ethanol-free gas, I wonder where they are getting it from.
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    The Skagit Farmer Supply cardlock on Park Lane, in Burlington is Ethanol free 87/89/92 octanes. This is conveniently located very near to Skagit Powersports....in the industrial park on the other side of the Railroad tracks. Simply drive north from Skagit Powersport, take a right at the Kia dealership, cross the railroad tracks, and turn Right on park lane.

    As of Feb 19, 2013 Conoco-Phillips stopped selling pure gas--switching to E10 ethanol blend. This is why the local Texaco stations are now E10. You'll remember a few years back when Shell/Tesoro at March Point did the same thing, and shell stations (along with all the generic coscto/fred meyer/etc.) went to E10.

    You can still get pure gas out of Tacoma...this one site is the only left in Western WA to my knowledge.

    It should also be noted only the Park Lane skagit farmers is ethonal free. The Burlington Boulevard and Oak Harbor stations are E10.

    Yes, I deliver fuel for a living.
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    Lake McMurray / Conway exit has non ethanol gas still..
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    Why do they keep forcing this ethanol crap on us?


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    bscman, thanks for the info!

    Hi Mark! Which Conway exit station are you referring to, the 76 on the west side of the freeway? The one on the east side has had ethanol for a long time, if I understand correctly, and I'd assumed the one on the west side changed recently. Is there another station there?
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    It started with the idea that we need to rid ourselves of dependence on foreign oil. That noble thought became what we have today.
    Thank Acher Daniel Midland and their buddies. They had just a wee bit of influence to get the ball rolling. The Govt subsidies were/are great!
    Look into sugar import tariffs for the reason we're not importing sugar cane from south of us. It makes great ethanol, more so than corn.
    It's big biz working the system to do whats right for their shareholders instead of what's best for everyone.

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    Conoco Phillips has been ethanol free.
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    Keith this was true (and the only place I bought gas!) up until recently, like within the last few weeks. Apparently not any more? That's what I'm trying to confirm. (In my posts above, I was referring to Conoco Phillips as "76", same thing.)
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    Not sure where you are exactly, but another option is marinas. They usually do E-free gas. They probably won't let you drive down the dock though. You could bring a gas can if you really ran out of other options.
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    Avgas,,know anyone with an airplane?
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    At most small airports, just show up and buy.
    Some want a aircraft tail number. Give them one parked on the tarmac.
    The main thing they are comcerned with is being popped for selling to people that use the fuel for road use.

    If that path works for you, also keep in mind that the gasline formula is different than automobile gasoline and may not give you the results you want.

    When I raced hydroplanes we used a mix that was rarely more than 50% avgas.
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    yeah,,but you had castor and nitro and shit to mix innit,,:lol3:lol3:clap
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    Oh yeah, same reason the Department of Energy was created back in the 80s, IIRC. 30 years later, thousands of .gov employees, billions of dollars spent yearly, and we're no closer to energy independence.
    Did anybody else see Al Gore's 'mea culpa' in the WSJ a couple years back? Before and during his tenure as VP, he was one of ethanol's biggest boosters, and has a lot to do with where we are today, In the article, he says he was wrong, that ethanol is fiscally unsound and the industry he helped create is a boondoggle supported by taxpayers.
    You'd think he's going to put even a little energy into undoing the monster he helped create? Nope. After that article, not a peep. He's moved on to carbon trading.


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    Nope, I only raced in gas classes.
    Specific gravity limit of 770 and ionic charge limits too.

    Some other classes run methanol, I don't think there are any open fuel inboard classes left. The 98 cubic inch class is long gone and I think that 7 litre Div I is dead too. Even though they could, not too many people ran nitro in their 7 litres. Even running just methanol, the men that drove these boats around Green Lake had massive balls.

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