No Neutral light

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  1. spencergt66

    spencergt66 Been here awhile

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    So On my 2007 950 SE I have no Neutral light while in Neutral sometimes while shifting I can see the light come on for a second when going in to 2nd gear i was told it needs a new gear indicator switch. Has anyone changed one of these?
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    BLUE(UK) Long timer

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    From HOW.

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    spencergt66 Been here awhile

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    Sweet ill try that sounds like my exact issue
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    So I tried stretching the springs on my gear selector behind the pins and no dice :cry. If I pull up a bit on the shift lever like half way to 2nd gear the light will come on but does not stay on in neutral. Guessing my sensor is no good looks like the corner is split too near the brass bushing o well it was worth a shot.
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    I've just hit the very same problem on my 2007 950SM. I tried the spring stretching and general contact cleaning. Now it gets neutral maybe 40% of the time instead of never but not enough so I ordered in the new switch, 2 springs and 2 'bullet' contacts. Waiting for a sunny day to swap the parts over. Maybe £25 for al the bits.
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    spencergt66 Been here awhile

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    Yea I see that the parts are pretty cheep but I still didn't want to do it I hate taking things apart numerous times.. O well what can you do I never really use the side stand anyway since I have a center stand
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    Motomal, what is the part number ofr that switch?
    Please let us know.
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    spencergt66 Been here awhile

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    all from KTMtwins

    KTM numbers

    Switch 60011023100 $29.99
    pins 60034037000 $2.99
    Springs 60034014000 $0.49
    Oring for switch 0770275025 $0.49
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    spencergt66 Been here awhile

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    Put in all the new parts today and still same issue no neutral unless you go from neutral to 2nd and then the light only comes on for a sec

    :baldy:baldy:baldy Any ideas?
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    Yep, me too! I have installed the new parts really carefully and get exactly the same symptoms as you with the light showing on the way from 1st to 2nd but not saying on. With the ignition on but engine off I can get the light on by holding the shift lever up towards 2nd but it will not stay on when I relax the pressure. I could understand it if the gear selection was playing up indicating the drum was not lined up in some way but everything else works fine. It makes no difference to me when riding but it is annoying if I want to run the bike on the stand.

    I tried asking on here too but to no avail. Maybe if we keep this thread near the top someone smarter will find the cure… please!
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    spencergt66 Been here awhile

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    Well now that I have 2 good switches I was thinking about this last night cause it was bothering me to no end:dog:dog I think If I remove the ears or bolt holes form the switch and then fabricate a clamp or lock plate using the 2 screws then I can clock the switch to the necessary position to get it to work correctly
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    I'm not familiar with that region, but can you remove them bolts and rotate the switch with your hand to see if the light comes on? Maybe after some wear the shifter drum doesn't sit in the right angle when on neutral? This wouldn't fix the problem, but bypass it.
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    That I think is the issue, but you cannot move the switch but maybe 1/2 MM My idea was to basicly make the switch moveable to correct the wear
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    Same issue here for a good while now. Mine has progressed to the point where the light comes on in second and stays on until I tap it up to third. Shifting is otherwise fine. Wonder how many of us have extra switches laying around now? I've gotten used to it. No neutral light on my 450 either...
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    LOL glad Im not the only one its really not that big of a deal but at the same time its one of those things that just gets to ya :huh
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    So we have perfectly good original sensors? Let's make the two mounting holes slightly slotted, it only needs 1 to 2 mm right? The should then be enough rotation in the switch to get it lined up correctly and it shouldn't affect the oil seal either.

    I'll dig out the old part and see about modifying it over the next few days...
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    It just occurred to me that if you still have the EPC fitted and enabled on your bike it could be all to cock if it thinks it's in 2nd when it's actually in 3rd and so on. I know we have EPC in the EU but not sure on US models?
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    Agreed, I much prefer to have things working as designed. I still giggle like a shoolgirl every time I ride the thing though. What a motorcycle it is!
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