Nobody will buy High spec 250-400cc sportbikes.

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Meter Man, Dec 31, 2010.

  1. troyguitar

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    Great to know. I ignored the dirt stuff thinking that service requirements and suspension geometry would be all wrong, but the 250/350 EXC with street tires sounds pretty good compared to a regular sport bike.

    I guess I just have to give up on having a bike that does all of these things AND sounds like an F1 car... can't have it all.
  2. stretchmoney

    stretchmoney Been here awhile

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    The aprilia svx/rvx 450-550's were 250 lbs wet with 50-60, maybe more hp. If they could just make that engine a bit tougher they would have what we all want here. And there was a race series for them for a few years ago where they turned them into sportbikes ala moto450, reworked fork internals for height and shorter stroke, linkage change and or shock change for the rear, forged wheels for slicks, the spoked wheels were kept for wets.
    I have only ridden 6-7 bikes in my life and I rode one of those back to back with a Tuono and the sxv 450 was scary light for me, I felt ike it was going to catch air from hitting a nickel in the road.
    And let's get started on new two strokes which should've happened in the 90's.
  3. dlmarquez

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    I just bought a Triumph Tiger 800 (brand new 2016) in December, but I already am thinking that the Duc sixtytwo or perhaps the CB500 honda would have been more appropriate to my riding style/habits/plan.
    I am hoping that the choices in ther 350-500cc class expand...a sort of 80's style UJMC version of the R3 would be extremely attractive to me!
    The tiger has so much more power than I need, and it's Soooooo much heavier to push thru corners that I would like!
    The Suzuki supermoto would be at the top of my list of candidates, if the gas tank was about 5 litres bigger!
  4. Gone Troppo

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    A mate has the new Duke 390. He put the Akro pipe on it, and loves it. Very light and flickable.
  5. fecundity

    fecundity Been here awhile

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    "Fat 'muricans" are stuck on buying big displacement HD's mostly, big horsepower and magical 200mph street speeds are definately not part of that crowd.

    Maybe some boutique bike maker will come out with what you want one day.
  6. Gone Troppo

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  7. JCool

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    I thought this thread was about the older 250 and 400 fours from Japan. The little RRs. I don't consider a single 4-stroke , that's not an MX bike , high spec.
  8. Gone Troppo

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    No, but it looks a viable modern alternative.
  9. techyiam

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    Speaking of which, it appears Indonesia Kawasaki is contemplating in how to bring an inline-4 300+ class bike into the market. Given that the 2017 Honda CBR250RR has a steel frame, I doubt that it will be in leagues with the Japan counterparts back in the 80's, 90's. It may take few more steps, but me thinks it's in the right direction.

    Kawasaki did well when they took the Ninja 250R up-market with the Ninja 300, which started the 300+ class.

    A glimmer of hope, I suppose.

    http://www.motoroids.com/news/four-...chael-tanadhi-of-pt-kawasaki-motor-indonesia/
  10. Paebr332

    Paebr332 Good news everyone!

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    While this bike does not meet the minimum cc listed in the thread title, it is definitely high spec. I figure one of you will jump right on this.

    https://york.craigslist.org/mcy/6054130772.html

    "2009 Aprilia RS125. 798 miles. Rotax 125cc oil injected 2 stroke. There were only 150 of these imported for racing only. This example is street legal and has a clean PA title and current inspection. It has an Aprilia OEM Euro harness and ECU to allow lights. Lights, mirrors, turn signals and relay have been installed all with OEM parts. The bike isn't even broken in yet. It has Woodcraft rear sets and is GP shift(can be turned to standard shift easily), 34mm Dellorto carb, V-Force 3 reeds and cage, Arrow full carbon exhaust, Pipercross air filter, Rhinomoto front and rear axle sliders, EVOtech exhaust hanger, R&G Tail Tidy, Driven Racing swing arm spools, Ohlins front springs. This bike was Dyno tuned by Eraldo Ferracci himself at Fast by Ferracci in Willow Grove, PA. I have the Dyno sheet. Tires are Pirelli Diablo. TYGA Carbon fiber chain guard, tire hugger and case guard. I have the factory service manual, Owners Manual, parts manual and Rotax engine manual."
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  11. Scooterdoodler

    Scooterdoodler Long timer

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    I definately quality as one of them fat 'muricans', and I'm a geezer on top of all that. And, as expected, I like overpowered, heavy motorcycles, but I've also re-developed a healthy interest in smaller machines over the past several years. I bought an SR400 last August and now have 4300 miles on it, then I bought a new Royal Enfield six weeks ago, and have managed to put 1300 on it so far. These are far from sportbikes, but I may well add an R3 before too long, so my path is in that general direction.
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  12. mrchristian

    mrchristian Been here awhile

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    Agree with all of this. I don't have a KTM, but I've got a WR400F. Years and years and years of riding, dual sporting, redlining 5th gear across dry lake beds, hitting hill climbs. Chance the oil whenever, don't have a mileage or hour counter on the bike just do it when I have time. Needed a valve adjustment once. I imagine the EXC KTM's are the same way.

    These bikes don't die when you ride them. They die when people get sick of them and they rot away in a backyard in the sun for years.
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  13. Navin

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    SWM announces 350 entry level (?) and 550 high spec V-twins to come...

    Things could get more interesting.
  14. Florida Lime

    Florida Lime Long timer

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    What I saw was "Next up comes a 550cc twin for more advanced riders, which will appear in a commuter bike for city use."

    Doesn't sound very "high spec" to me. :dunno
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  15. Navin

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    Wait n see I guess? Id sure like to see a new gen tiny V twin somewhere.
  16. Florida Lime

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    I'd love to see a smaller high spec V twin, but I don't have much faith in such a bike coming out, especially with the description given above.
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  17. Elle2Konsai

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    I do too...i'm convinced the scrambler sixty two is the best sounding street legal bike under 600cc's with that little v-twin. My understanding is they cost a bit more and present some challenges as compared to a parallel twin but I do enjoy music other than a sewing machine...even though i've loved the bikes I've owned with parallel twins.

    Remarkably I had one...an '89 that I found in someone's basement...almost, actually don't ask....and it was an amazing motorcycle. It topped out at an honest 129 mph, zinged to its 14k rpm, had a massive frame that makes those on the likes of the CBR300/500 look like a dried up, leftover ramen noodle. It fit me like a glove and I could swear I was destined for the AMA after my first track day on the thing. Such was the confidence this thing inspired.

    It was however expensive and heavy for what it was....it had the midrange of a 125 eliminator along with cramped ergos which were OK for me but not likely suitable for most adults over the height of 5'6". The CB-1 from Honda was a contemporary albeit one with more humane ergos that in many ways anticipated the great midsized naked we have today like the fz-07. In fact when I see the promos and pics for the upcoming CB300R, i oftentimes think that such a bike already existed 20+ years ago and merely needs FI and to pass contemporary emissions standards.

    I've read there was a double R version in japan only that was the real prize.

    I'd buy one in a heartbeat if such a thing existed again.