Non-ethanol fuel

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by ML WYDELL, Jan 5, 2011.

  1. ML WYDELL

    ML WYDELL NED

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2009
    Oddometer:
    501
    Location:
    Looking for fuel
    Check out www.pure-gas.org for a listing of service stations that sell non-ethanol fuel. I've been finding it at marina's usually in 89 octane. It is now considered " recreational fuel " for boats, 4 wheelers, etc. Supposedly regular service staions will have different colored pumps for recreational fuel.

    What are some thoughts on this subject?
    #1
  2. Reposado1800

    Reposado1800 Juicy J fan!

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2006
    Oddometer:
    5,806
    Location:
    5th and Main
    Ethanol is getting out of hand and it makes everything run worse/ with worse mpg. Not good for carbs either or 2 strokes. If they are going to push ethanol, they should build 100% ethanol burning engines.
    Then people would be filling up jugs to take home for parties and we can't have that.
    #2
  3. Sniper X

    Sniper X De Oppresso Liber

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Oddometer:
    33,351
    Location:
    Central New Mexico, 7420ft above sea level
    Fill those who don't know in on why ethenol free gas is better.
    #3
  4. Uncle Pollo

    Uncle Pollo Long timer

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2006
    Oddometer:
    48,580
    Location:
    Albuquerque, Neue Messico
    Ethanol equates the burning power of a drunkard's piss.
    #4
  5. Hughlysses

    Hughlysses Long timer

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2004
    Oddometer:
    3,448
    Location:
    Summerville, SC
    There was a thread on this in "shiny things" a while back. IIRC, the website you linked uses information from people who find gas labeled "ethanol free" at their local stations and forward it to the website. This info may or may not be accurate.

    At least one poster watched a truck fill the tanks at an "ethanol-free" station, and then drive ~1/2 mile down the road and fill the tanks at a non-ethanol-free station. He stopped and asked the tanker driver what the deal was, and the driver confirmed the gas in fact had ethanol in it, he had nothing to do with the labels on the station's pumps.

    Another point worth making, if the 87 octane and 91 or 93 octane at the station aren't ethanol-free, the 89 octane probably isn't either. Most if not all stations blend 87 and 91/93 at the pump to make their mid-grade gas.
    #5
  6. assquatch20

    assquatch20 Hoss Cat

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,107
    Location:
    Chattanooga
    There's a local "Carr" gas station in town. I'm not sure if Carr is a big time carrier but I've never seen another one. Anyhow, I was heading home from work and decided to try their stuff and see if I could notice any improvements. They advertised as 'ethanol free' and were a few cents cheaper than any of the other stations in town.

    Anyhow I filled it up and didn't notice a difference much, but I'm no expert. A few days later when I had maybe 1/3 tank left I was heading to the store when it died on me. I thought I was just out of gas, and I noticed I left the 'cock on reserve, but when I looked in the tank I had plenty.

    After carb removal it seemed pretty clogged and sure enough the gas was bad enough to notice some impurities in there. A little seafoam and some fresh fuel got me going alright.

    Anyhow I think ethanol free gas is great, but I worry about the people selling it. It seems maybe it's a little more likely to be dirty when it's coming from smaller, careless providers.
    #6
  7. ML WYDELL

    ML WYDELL NED

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2009
    Oddometer:
    501
    Location:
    Looking for fuel
    In searching for ethanol free fuel a station owner stated that it is illegal to pump E free fuel into vehicles, must be pumped into fuel containers or directly into boats. Ridiculous.
    #7
  8. Hughlysses

    Hughlysses Long timer

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2004
    Oddometer:
    3,448
    Location:
    Summerville, SC
    If it's boat fuel, wouldn't that be because there's no road tax assessed on it? It may not have anything to do with the lack of ethanol content.
    #8
  9. tcourdin

    tcourdin Resident Spooner

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2008
    Oddometer:
    10,748
    Location:
    Arkansas
    I've never heard that? We have two local stations that still sell ethanol free fuel. I get a bit better mileage out of my truck with e free fuel, and all of my bikes run and start better without ethanol in them. Ethanol played havoc on my kids bikes that dont get ridden much, it really cruds the little carbs up. I dont use ethanol in any of my engines if possible.
    #9
  10. BMW Kurt

    BMW Kurt Bannned

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2006
    Oddometer:
    11,366
    Location:
    Texas Ex-Pat
    Absorbs water and fouls fuel systems.
    #10
  11. The Raven

    The Raven Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2006
    Oddometer:
    4,811
    Location:
    Off the map,
    Eats rubber, and goes bad quicker
    #11
  12. stainlesscycle

    stainlesscycle Long timer

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2008
    Oddometer:
    2,300
    Location:
    morgantown, wv
    eats fiberglass. fast.
    #12
  13. Jacubird

    Jacubird Adventurer

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2007
    Oddometer:
    33
    I just returned from two fun filled years in Brazil. Down there, all gasoline is at least 25 percent ethanol, and pure ethanol can be had at the pump. My G/S ran great on the quarter ethanol fuel with no adjustments to the bike. I get it back to the USA and it runs like shit on the local swill until the engine is completely warmed up. I blame the fuel.

    YMMV
    #13