Noob buying a S10. Need some advice.

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by scesnick, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. scesnick

    scesnick n00b

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2014
    Oddometer:
    5
    Location:
    Western Md. Mountains
    Hey Fellas, My first post here but I have been lurking for about two years and I am totally hooked.
    I owned a street bike way back when in H.S. in the late 80's but since then I have been hitting the dirt hard and racing GNCC's and local hare scrambles since the early 90's and raced local moto before that.

    However, I am starting to hear the bones creek and this whole adventure sport thing just looks way too fun to pass up. I have researched Adv bikes for a while now and I am ready to lay down some cash on a 2013 White S10 with factory Yamaha Bags and top case. I can pick this bike up with the cases, taxes etc.. out the door for $14,600.

    I do have a few questions for you guys here that are much more experienced than I am.
    1. I have scoured web looking for a real answer about the 2014 S10 and if it is coming t the states or not. Any definite info out there that I missed?

    2. would the 2014 be worth waiting for if it actually is coming to or shores?

    3.Are the Yamaha factory side and top cases worth the money or are there others out there that are better for the same price.

    4. Riding 2 up? We all know if wifey is not comfortable it will be a short ride. Are there any mandatory mods that make it more comfortable? Or is it pretty comfy as is?

    Thanks in advance fellas,

    2.
    #1
  2. Red Dust

    Red Dust Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2006
    Oddometer:
    463
    Location:
    North of Brisbane
    Welcome to the forum!

    I will just answer my opinion on question #2 & 4.

    I would wait for the 2014 as it has a lot of stuff that would enhance this bike.

    Seat is super comfy for both rider & pillion (my opinion).
    #2
  3. GrahamD

    GrahamD Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2009
    Oddometer:
    5,453
    Location:
    Blue Mnts Ozstralia
    1) No.
    2) Depends on what the price is and what you want? I'd take the "basic" one if I was in the market, but plenty would go for the "E" version. Assuming both are available that is.
    3) Some people think they are OK, as long as your are careful getting the locks installed properly.
    4) Not bade for Wifeys.Many Wifeys like it.
    #3
  4. RoverDan

    RoverDan Adventurer

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2012
    Oddometer:
    59
    Location:
    Northern Virginia/DC
    I own a 2012 S10 and love it. I use it for my twice a month commute from NC to D.C...technical single tracks in the Blue Ridge...and as a daily year round bike.

    I have the factory luggage and like them. At first, I thought I would use them until I destroy them, then buy 'real' luggage...well, several drops/spills/and boo boos later, they are still working great.

    GrahamD is right about the locks. The first thing you need to do is open the case, and using a jewelers screw driver, carefully remove the lock screws and loctite those things. The vibes will work them loose, and then you are up a creek...and they never fall out at a convenient time.

    I don't know anything about the 2014, but if it is an improvement, it has to be amazing, because the S10 I own makes me very happy.

    Cheers.
    #4
  5. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2006
    Oddometer:
    17,677
    Location:
    Salt Lake
    I don't know how to pull quotes from other threads. So go to the link post #434 and you
    can decide it the difference is important to you.

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=931828&page=29
    #5
  6. RoverDan

    RoverDan Adventurer

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2012
    Oddometer:
    59
    Location:
    Northern Virginia/DC
    If Pluric says something about the S10, you better listen!!
    #6
  7. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2006
    Oddometer:
    17,677
    Location:
    Salt Lake
    :ilmostro

    :lol3

    Thank you, but if you really look close so many others have way better specific information
    and have been very kind about sharing it.

    I tend to be focused on the everyday function ability and what can be modified to personalize
    the bike for riders needs. I've tried hard to break mine and have found some weak spots.

    I'm not complaining at all. With what this bike has been through I can only be more
    impressed with its durability every ride.

    Sure there are other brands that may do a specific area of riding better, but for a do all
    motorcycle it's awfully impressive.:thumb
    #7
  8. Lerxstdawg

    Lerxstdawg Wait...what?

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2008
    Oddometer:
    695
    Location:
    Mulgrave, Vic. OZ
    Sure, listen to Ric. But be very careful. Also, he only gets flat tires when he's not wheelstanding his S10.:D:lol3

    [​IMG]
    #8
  9. mcmann

    mcmann Motorcycle Maniac

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,252
    Location:
    Jefferson, GA

    Differences between the 2013 XT1200Z and the 2014 XT1200Z and ZE (Europe), according to YAMAHA

    2014 XT1200Z
    Refined engine with 112PS (82.4kW) @ 7,250rpm and 117 Nm
    •Enhanced D-MODE switchable mapping characteristics:
    •More relaxed and easy feeling in “T” mode
    •More exhilarating and exciting sport riding in “S” mode
    •Enhanced driveability from mid to high speed range
    •More enjoyable feeling during acceleration and at higher rpm
    •Smoother shifting up and down between 2nd and 3rd gear
    •New: Manually-adjustable 4-position screen with GPS holder
    •New: Cruise Control for more relaxed long distance touring
    •Enlarged intake and exhaust ports
    •Lighter camshaft assembly
    •Redesigned piston rings
    •New exhausts
    •Enhanced shaft drive damper assembly
    •New rubber clutch damper adopted
    •Reduced weight
    •New: LCD instruments with multi-function display
    •New: Gear Position Indicator
    •New: Compact LED flashers
    •New: Extra protection cover under headlights
    •New: Tapered aluminium handlebars
    •New: Handlebar crown and bar holder
    •New: Enhanced more upright riding position
    •New: Redesigned 2-tone stitchless low-profile dual seat
    •New: Tail cover
    •New: Small muffler protector
    •New: Redesigned forged aluminium sidestand

    In addition the 2014 XT1200ZE has..

    •Electronically adjustable front and rear suspension
    •Total of 84 potential suspension settings
    •Grip warmers fitted as original equipment
    •Top case base
    •Assist grip
    •Main stand (Centre Stand)


    [​IMG]
    #9
  10. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2006
    Oddometer:
    17,677
    Location:
    Salt Lake
    Really? You had to use the Graham modified photo???

    :D

    I think everyone here is aware that due to the massive size and weight of the Tenere
    any type of hooligan or off road use is very limited. Or so I've heard.:wink::lol3
    #10
  11. jwhuls

    jwhuls Adventurer

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2012
    Oddometer:
    52
    Location:
    Loogootee, Indiana
    I have had all kinds of bikes over the years.

    There are two XT1200's in my stable. I should really sell the 'old' one.

    but I can't let it go.
    #11
  12. RED CAT

    RED CAT Bumpy Backroader

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2005
    Oddometer:
    3,062
    Location:
    Western Canada
    Just came back from the Calgary Bike Show and will be getting the 2014 S10. Got to sell my 2012 first. What a nice bike. Fixed a lot of the small things on the new bike and added a bunch of nice touches. Definitely a nicer bike over all than the one it replaces. I love my 2012 but love the 14 better. Go for the 2014!
    #12
  13. snakebitten

    snakebitten Small Town Hick

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2007
    Oddometer:
    981
    Location:
    Coastal Texas
    When you climb up on your own Super Tenere and take off to do what this bike is actually designed to do, venturing down roads you've never ridden, discovering places that you've never known, climbing out of your tent to a cup of coffee and a mountain sunrise......

    it won't matter if it's a 2012 or 2014. Won't matter if it's White, Grey, Blue, or Black.

    You'll look over at it sitting there equipped to haul you to your next destination and smile.

    No reason to fret.

    I like the new one. Looks great. But I haven't seen one yet that doesn't.
    #13
  14. de Vaca

    de Vaca Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2011
    Oddometer:
    203
    Well said!
    #14
  15. Wreckchecker

    Wreckchecker Ungeneer to broked stuff.

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Oddometer:
    3,032
    Location:
    Damascus, MD
    Lots of responses about the 2013 vs 2014 so I'll just go to the wife part. My partner likes the rear seat more than anything else she's been on. To perfect it for her, we've done 2 things

    1. I made a plastic spacer that goes under the front of the seat, raising it about 3/8". She likes having the flatter seat.

    2. For longer rides, she has done 10 hour days on the stock saddle. However, she prefers either an Airhawk or sheepskin. I have a Seat Concepts replacement foam & cover kit ($156) that the weather has prevented us testing. It will be interesting to see which she likes more.
    #15
  16. scesnick

    scesnick n00b

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2014
    Oddometer:
    5
    Location:
    Western Md. Mountains
    wreckerchecker,

    do you have the top box for your wifey to lean against? if so, I was wondering if the edge of the box starts to get uncomfortable on her back after a while because it is straight up and down and not padded at all.
    #16
  17. AlsoRan

    AlsoRan Lone Trail Of Dust

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2007
    Oddometer:
    412
    Location:
    West Coast
    I also use the bike for 2-up and have a top box with a back pad that covers the top edge. My wife's jacket also has a back pad in it, both combined make for a comfortable backrest.
    #17
  18. BergDonk

    BergDonk Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2010
    Oddometer:
    4,026
    Location:
    Snowy Mountains Oz
    FWIW my SWMBO for well over 30 years reckons the S10 is the best pillion ride she's had, loves it up back, but as long as I have the top box mounted as her security blanket.
    #18