Separate names with a comma.
Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by NSFW, Nov 28, 2010.
i'll take one XL if available.
i was late on the list before the ride.
we'll wait till monday and if i don't get PMs from those who prepaid, they are for grabs (dibs get them first).
man...these shirts are HOT!....
Pre paid ??? I'll take three
Loves me some free ones yessir
Put me down for an XL tee.
Those are some really nice shirts.
Any beer glasses left over?
i received a feedback from psr guests who were at the restaurant last sunday and they overheard in the restaurant that the "animals" left a lot of trash in the campsites. they actually meant bikers.
today, i called psr management to confirm this. there are 5 campsites that people left their trash, and more trash and beer bottles in the firepit. the area around the dumpster was littered with trash, which got blown away by the wind. the dumpster was full, but we should put our trash in bags and sealed.
we are suppose to leave this place the way we find it or cleaner. pack it in - pack it out. yes, only a few irresponsible peeps is enough to give us a "bad image".
i hope we learn something from this incident.
now, i have to send a peace pipe to psr.
After everybody split on Sunday, that evening, Andy (Macadamia), Bronwyn (WaywardRider) and I wandered pretty extensively through the campsite area down there. We were looking for her missing bike key, in the off chance we might find it. But we started at the site where the 5th wheel was, and covered that whole area from there towards the dumpster, plus one row behind it (away from the road). I don't recall seeing any trash in those sites. Those were the areas where we felt we her key might be. Unfortunately, we didn't find the key. But at the same time, those sites in particular were not thrashed.
Same thing happened at WMRS ride (StoneWall).....
Match up site #'s to pics & from next year.
It was looking bad around the "community" fire on Saturday morning when I left.. Already. Can't imagine what it looked like when the big party hit..
They don't have a Camp Host to babysit us this year...
the sites were not trashed, it's the trash in the sites.
i was still there sunday noon, there were 2 psr guys by the dumpster cleaning up, they didn't look happy. then later, a pick up truck doing his rounds with some of our stuff, thrash bags, firewood, etc on the bed of the truck. 3 sites away from me, there's trash in a black poly bag , then the hq firepit has thrash and empty beer bottles.
what they said is true. i didn't pick up the trash but instead gave the psr staff 5 t-shirts thinking it's a bribe. not all psr employee got the t shirts, and i heard they're the one complaining. i talked to 2 employees and they said everything is cool. the 2 employees work in the gas station.
i dunno, but we gave them a reason to bitch.
there were a lot of loose trash by the dumpster. not all were in plastic bags. the blowing wind caused havoc and scattered some of the trash. i told them that if they provided more dumpsters, then we will have no problem. but for them, having a big or more dumpsters is a tough one, there's not really a place to dump trash and a company that haul trash on a regular basis like here in the city.
just wondering, those who had their own firepits if they clean them up.
i think, next time....what we bring IN, we haul OUT.
Just bought a Spot Connect via West Marine. In stock, arrived today at my doorstep. Nice unit - works awesome with my android.
When DD and I left the dumpster was full again. It was dumped on Friday (trash was piles around it then). On Sunday at 1030 when we left the dumpster was full again and trash was all around the sides. It mostly seemed to be in bags. I did not check the various sites.
100% agree Joel. However when Jim and I left and made our usual sweep of our site and the surrounding area and then took our trash over to the dumpsters they were already overflowing two times their capacity. And honestly, I can't recall seeing anything but tied trash bags there. Remember, it is a wild life area, and wild life will tear apart bags and spread shit all over the place lookinf or that perfect morsel.
On another note: PSR knew that they had a full camp for the weekend and should've from experience known that one dumpster "not emptied" for the whole weekend would not suffice. They should've brought in one or two more. But then again, they also only have one head and "finally" on Saturday morning at 10:00 brought in two outhouses, ONLY after the single bathroom could not handle it. I agree you must strive to leave it clean as you can, but that should be based on the facilities at hand. Unless there are none at all, then you haul out what you brought in (trail rules).
Maybe next year, assuming that they won't have enough trashcans again, we should have a single designated truck for hauling our trash to the dump in Trona, or better yet, just order a dumpster from Trona to be dropped there for the weekend. Personall, I think this is the resposibility of the campsite manager, but whatever it takes I guess.
psr, knowing that there was going to be a really large crowd for the weekend kind of dropped the ball if you ask me. a 2nd dumpster shouldn't be that hard to procure, if only for the weekend, and having it full time would be even better. instead, the answer was to take a backhoe over to the dumpster, and literally smash the trash down with the bucket. (no one else saw this?)
even after the operator smashed down as much trash as he could, it still wouldn't all fit, and in the process of smashing with the backhoe, most all the bags were torn open. so i wouldn't get too down on ourselves for being "animals'', it would have been a lot cleaner if we had somewhere to actually put all the garbage.
the way i see it, psr is a little better than primitive camping. for the camping fee they charge, i would not expect a multiple star facility. as the common saying goes, you get what you pay for. where else can we camp as low as $5 per person/night.
psr is in the desert, very difficult or costly to bring in and out any kind of stuff.
they don't have a camp host that weekend, and the job still open.
the psr employee comment made at the restaurant was exagerrated and spreaded malisciously. only a couple at the most have bones to pick. the rest of the employees (i mean the office peeps) are cool.
one reason the dumpster easily got filled up are the boxes that were not torn down or folded flat.
next year we will have at least the ff.
designated containers for beer bottles and cans
each campsite will have a person in-charge
we pack out, what we packed in with some exceptions
T SHIRTS REMINDER
IF YOU DON'T GET YOURS BY THIS AFTERNOON, PLEASE PM ME.
by monday, i need to unload the tees i have with me.
wish there's a wm nearby, i'm sure they will ship. will call rei again today and see what's the status on sito's connect.
Hi Adventure Riders-
It was great of Ron aka Ramjet to host a fund raiser dinner to help support Stewards of the Sequoia efforts to keep trails open in the Sequoia National Forest.
I hear Adventure Riders will be coming to Sequoia to enjoy the trails April 22-24. I want to invite each of you who enjoy the Sequoia trails to become members of Stewards so we can keep you up to date with our monthly Newsletter. I hope the riders who have not yet made a tax deductible donation will consider making one now, so Stewards can continue to help keep the trails open for you to enjoy.
For those who do not know about Stewards you find out about our who we are and our many accomplishments
We are the largest and most successful trail advocates and largest on the ground volunteer organization in the Sequoia Forest
Here is the segment from our April Newsletter
Ron absorbed all the of the costs for the dinner, what a very nice way to help the Sequoia trails we all love
Way to go Ron and thanks to all of those who made a donation. Your support is what makes it possible to stop trail closures in Sequoia.
glad to hear we were able to help. many of us will be in the sequioas on the weekend of the april 22-24. that's a beautiful place and we all have to work hard to keep it open and clean.
ron you are the man.....; i have been riding with ron for 3 years or so, the man was unselfish and he loves to ride.
this takes a lot of work, plus the cuscous, salad, condiments, etc; and trucking the food to PSR which is about hours away from his house.
the tax man....
THAT WEEKEND, WE SAW OVER A HUNDRED OF APPRECIATIVE PEOPLE AND THEY WERE OUTSTANDING IN BOTH GIVING AND HELPING OTHERS.
WE HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY AND GLAD TO BE A PART OF IT...
EDIT: next year, i propose we do it again, thusday is SOS NIGHT!
Joel, you know that for military types SOS has special meaning. I for one, hope to never see SOS again as long as I live. Now if you are talking Stewards of the Sequoia, I am all in. Sign me up as help.