Norra 2013

Discussion in 'Racing' started by Strong Bad, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. crankshaft

    crankshaft Guns are for pussies

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    We had two bikes with one support vehicle and the speeds between the riders was pretty big. Our rule was to just assume that we where on our own and if the truck was there, then it was a bonus. Lots of gas stations along the way on the transit sections, the stages are the problem. After spending all kinds if money just to get here, why not spend a few bucks for a bigger tank? It's insurance right?


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  2. Luke

    Luke GPoET&P

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    Every transit has a half hour time window that needs to be met. There will likely be more than 30 minutes between the first bike to start and the last. The truck won't be able to make up a half hour on many sections. So even if the bikes are equal speed and have no breakdowns it can only be done for a few sections.

    Providing 'bivouac' support for a bunch of bikes with one truck is not a problem. The truck drives from the day start to the day finish with all the riders' stuff and then spends the evening driving back up the course to pick up anyone who broke down. :D

    IMO, with one support vehicle you can provide a single pit each day for several bikes, or you can chase a single bike and provide multiple pits each day for that bike. But you can't do both unless you're willing to let a breakdown on one bike ruin the race for the other bike.
  3. BAZZER450

    BAZZER450 Been here awhile

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    we are going to use mag 7 and i will have a 5 gal tank. would be nice to use a smaller one but then pemex stations would need to be very close to the start and finnish of the stages if your truck cant be there.I think the every man for himself and have the truck pick which pit support each rider gets through out the day . and meet up at the bivi everynight . maybe we can all get together and have a list of teams who are participating and say that if we need some emergency help we would know who to ask ? we could all carry extra gas /water ect ? just a thought
  4. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    Hell yes you need to enter that thing! Best part, as a entrant you can help the bikes out on the way! :freaky
  5. Johnnymoto

    Johnnymoto Adventurer

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    But I've never done any off road racing, and I think it may be a bit arrogant to just show up for this four day event and expect to finish. I've done some road racing, and I know may way around baja a bit, I've ridden about 20 days of dirt down there in the last few years , and have spent an equal amount of time on the pavement on my GS. I'll be riding a DRZ400, she's my Baja bike, I live in Chicago, but the bike lives in San Diego, she's a solid machine, very well maintained, I know her well and am very comfortable traveling on her. I'm not fast in the dirt by any means, but I can get through most terrain and keep up a decent pace. I'm in good shape and can ride long days. I have never used a rally book or computer before, so there will certainly be a learning curve with that. I have the option of doing solo, or teaming up with a friend. Any opinion on which would be better. Either way we'd both be on DRZ's, we have tons of spares, including the ability to bring a spare bike.

    I'm torn between coming out to watch the prep the day before the race, scope it out, maybe head to bay of la for the 1st night, then head back to san diego or just throwing my hat into the ring and entering. If I race, do I solo or with a team mate sharing a bike?

    Any advice would be appreciated.
  6. wrk2surf

    wrk2surf on the gas or brakes

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    Racing is very dangerous and baja is very very remote.. I would strongly consider scoping out the program during 2013 and maybe do a little cross country, hare scramble or enduro racing back home. Perhaps try a Best in the Desert one day 250-300 mile race or AMA desert race to see if you want to even compete for hours on end in the heat and remoteness. It is a major undertaking and something not to take lightly!
  7. Racer20

    Racer20 East West Racing

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    Well you sound like a similiar story as myself, I'm primarily road raced and had only done a 5 day tour before deciding to do the rally last year. I did have a lot of dirt experience dirt riding, just no desert racing experience. I do agree that Baja is a lot different and shouldn't be taken lightly but the rally is a ton of fun and not a lot of pressure to push beyond your limits. I was also torn on running solo or going with a teammate. My decision was run with the teammate and that's what I would recommend for your first visit to BAJA. I had also never done any rally navigation and ended up just entering a local enduro event before going out to get a little better feel of reading a roadbook and watching the odometer etc.

    If you do decide to run the event just be realistic about your expectations and you never know how things will end up.

  8. Johnnymoto

    Johnnymoto Adventurer

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    Thanks for the replies guys. Racer 20 that sounds good. Glad to hear that you made it through coming from a similar background. Racing, even in it's humblest/mellowest forms, is unlike anything else, and I know that. I also found some car events that are local between now and then that use the same navigation, I was planning on hitting a couple of those so I'm not totally green. I still may take this year to scout it out. How tough are the challenge sections? I know that's a really hard question to answer without having a relative point. Any of you guys know Simpson's, its towards the ocean southwest of mikes and coyote?
  9. Johnnymoto

    Johnnymoto Adventurer

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    And as far as expectations, my expectation, or plan, as always in Baja, is to go with the flow, take what comes, and bring it home in one piece. I'd be happy to finish dead last.
  10. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad n00balicious

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    There is nothing as technical as Simpson's in the NORRA Mex 1k race. Logistics, distance, and pace are the main issues with this event. Not having any brain farts helps a lot but it seems to get many.
  11. drc42

    drc42 Rally Dreamer

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    I raced the Mex1K last year and while I have done some RallyMoto, enduro's and hare scrambles I had never ridden let alone raced in the desert. I was also on a DRZ400. Other than my front wheel falling apart (due to me being an idiot and not checking the spokes on the new wheels after day 1) no major issues with the bike.

    So, if you have ridden in Baja before it sounds like you are more prepared than I was.

    As far as solo vs. team that is a personal preference, I much prefer entering events like this solo, mostly because I know I am not fast so for me the challenge is finishing.
  12. BAZZER450

    BAZZER450 Been here awhile

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    I think more than anything this race is all about having fun and a good time . I think it is the easiest introduction to baja outside of a guided ride that you could do . The pressure of a score or bitd event wont really be there. Of course you will have the compititive riders /drivers to look out for but,not the the intense pressure. Ride the event at your own pace do your home work with your support and chase and you will have a great time !Just my 2 cents of course .
  13. beechum1

    beechum1 Dandole Gas al Burro

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    From Anders Green's FB Page:

    Getting the new NORRA rules emailed back and forth... looks about final. :)
  14. Idahombre

    Idahombre Likes easy girls!

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    In the NORRA rule book it states: :deal "NCR6: HORNS
    All vehicles must have a horn that is audible from a distance of 100 feet in front of the vehicle. Sirens
    are permitted during Special stages but are not to be used on the highway nor during transit sections."

    I suppose this includes the motorcycles....? Really? :lol3
  15. beechum1

    beechum1 Dandole Gas al Burro

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    I'm just going to bring puppy dogs to throw at their windows to like the mourning dew
  16. Baja Dad

    Baja Dad Long timer

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    Yes :evil
    Hella makes a nice horn
    works great
  17. DaveRMS

    DaveRMS Long timer

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    It's part of the FIM Cross Country Rally regulations as well as the Dakar Rally regulations. Both require a horn with a 90 Db minimum noise level.

    Dave
  18. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    No big deal, this one is Dakar proven:

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  19. DaveRMS

    DaveRMS Long timer

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  20. Idahombre

    Idahombre Likes easy girls!

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    Passing tech is not to be taken lightly. To much time and dollars invested to fail.
    While we're on the subject, Can anyone think of any other, not so obvious rules that apply to the motos?
    I've read the rules, pretty straight forward, could have missed something.
    Thanks.