NORRA Mex1K Support Thread

Discussion in 'Racing' started by Johnnymoto, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. Strong Bad

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    Any hand held radio carried by a bike rider won't be able to broadcast far enough to really do any good. Even with the radios we use in the cars we are out of range 80% of the time. A hand held is good for what is known as "line of sight", and there are a lot of mountains in Baja. KISS and don't add additional weight.
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  2. Baja Dad

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    I disagree
    what weight??? Come on !!
    We have usesd radios for years on the bikes
    They have came on handy many times.
    We also carry a SAT phone
    It's always better to have then to have not!
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  3. Strong Bad

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    IF you already have radios, go head on brother, carry all you want, it's your race. If you don't already have radios, use the money you would have spent on a radios and rent Sat phones, which are a good idea.
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  4. bajaboundmoto

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    A hand held radio for a biker is near useless IMO. Save the $.
    A Sat phone carried is great. Spend the $.

    But, it's like the common question... "what front tire should I buy?" Everyone has an opinion, fine. I also wont wear a Leatt and wont let my kid wear one. But I'd never tell anyone else not to wear one.


    ** My comment about a hand held radio is for a race situation only. I have 7 handhelds and enough headsets, PTTs, and harnesses to outfit at least 7 riders and on our guided rides at least the lead and sweep always have them and they're awesome. Racing, no thanks.

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  5. BAZZER450

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    Radio's are a must in truck only good for bike to truck within a couple miles of each other . Has any one used spot connect with your smart phone for communication with your crew where ther is no cell service , thinking the rider could use the spot and message the crews sat phone or the cell phone if there is coverage ?
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  6. Racer20

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    Yes we started out running bibs front and rear and the rear did fall apart more from high speed on the lake bed than the road, last year went with bib in the front and HD tube rear worked well.
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  7. NSFW

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    http://www.iridium.com/products/Iridium-AxcessPoint.aspx?productCategoryID=29


    i have this one and a sat phone, then bring a lap top/smart phone connect via wifi. we will be able to track our riders. this could be $$$, but if we have several to share the cost, it will make it affordable.

    i still need to play with it and see how reliable this is.
    [​IMG]


    can also be used in tracking the other support vehicles w/ spot.

    maybe some of the high budgeted racers are already using it. anyone knows?
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  8. Strong Bad

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    None of the high dollar car guys are doing much high tech stuff for NORRA. Its a FUN race and not taken that seriously. The specials aren't that long and with the huge paved sections between the specials, it just isn't hard to keep track of where your entry is. SCORE is a totally different attitude.
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  9. Scotty Breauxman

    Scotty Breauxman Baja Breaux

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    No so fast. I've been testing Sat WIFI devices (2 so far in the past month) they are worthless. I'm pretty sure the spot page will not happen. I would test the IRIDIUM hot spot at home before you get your hopes up. This technology is basically text only...Even posting an FB pic is a stretch. Let me know if you find out otherwise
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  10. NSFW

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    i'm not a racer nor have experience in racing. just an outsider getting inside.

    top contenders are excellent riders, have seasoned support crew and most likely finish the race without a glitch. they will trade off any thing that will weigh them down for performance. they're in the race for the podium.


    the rest of the riders are there for fun and personal reason. when things break loose....it becomes a survival run. fun ends when the rider crashes and left alone and/or darkness falls. it will boil down to the rider and his crew to make it work and finish the stage. logistically, communication is the prime importance. radio, sat phone, wifi, spot etc., any of those can be a game changer or life saver.

    as for the crew, driving at night in mexico is not fun. at 11 pm, we encountered a cow in the middle of the road, and miss it by a foot. we could have warned the other support trucks behind us if we had comm. luckily non of them hit the cow.

    experience is a good thing, but not all has it. what works for them may not work for all. only thing common is we're all vulnerable.
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  11. Strong Bad

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    Sheesh!
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  12. NSFW

    NSFW basecamp4adv

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    hahaha....love the way you respond. we're always wrong.

    sheesh, can comment anything without getting clobbered...:lol3

    relax man.
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  13. Baja Dad

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    Strong Bad .

    Let it go !!!!!!
    You come from OLD school Big $$$$ teams.
    I have been doing these races since 1969
    " so yes I am old school but No $$ teams too"
    But !!!!!!

    This event ( is not a race ) It is a Fun Rally and a lot of the RIDERS!
    are raw and having a raidio /sat phone/Spot is better then Not having one !! JMO
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  14. Strong Bad

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    Old school...... the LAST time I raced the 1000 on a bike was in the late 70's on a 250 Bultaco. Pits were all friends using their bikes for spare parts. No fucking radios or cell phones, and no one was left for dead.

    This is a fun event and there is no reason to spend a bunch of money on shit that ain't really gonna help that much. Why is every one crying about cost and high dollar teams and then want to throw a bunch of money away? Funny how many have also complained about cars using gadgets like GPS, but they want wi-fi and radios? I've been on SCORE teams with ALL of the toys, bells & whistles, helicopters, semi-trucks, and entries run just to carry spare parts for the main team. We've had Ion Earth tracking systems in all the race cars and chase trucks, you could look at a screen and tell where everyone was. I'm the one saying save your money!!! Why does everyone have a problem with that?

    I've got a couple of nice Kenwood hand helds I'll sell if someone wants to throw money away. They already have 151.625 programmed in one of the channels.
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  15. Baja Dad

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    I am just saying If you have them " They come in handy"

    I would just RENT a sat phone and be done!!!

    I would also STRIP ALL GPS units off every Entry at the NORRA 1000
    and make them READ THE ROAD BOOK !!!! That what is FUN :clap:clap
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  16. NSFW

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    i admire what you accomplished and what you did for a lot of people.


    why can you respect other people's opinion and thoughts? quit shoving your opinions in us. you're sounding like an internet bully.


    my dad smoke, drank, ate fatty and salty food and party for many years and still living at the age of 93. will i follow his footsteps? what worked for him may not work for most of us...LOL.


    live and let live.
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  17. Strong Bad

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    Sorry if my standing by my opinions, even though you don't agree with them, causes you discomfort. Everyone races his own race, in his own way, with what he thinks will get him to the finish line. Please ignore my opinions if they don't suit your needs, but you shouldn't think that I'm trying to force them on you. Best of luck to you in your Baja efforts, be safe, and have fun!


    As far as Baja Dad is concerned, well...... he's welcome to his own wrong opinions too!:lol3
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  18. Johnnymoto

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    NORRA is pretty easy, Baja is pretty small, and the # 1 thing is that there is so much support everywhere. +1 with Strong Bad, keep it simple, run what ya brung, and if you need to chat sat phone is a good way to fly.
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  19. Baja Dad

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    Then You can Ride your Vespa!!!

    -1 for :topes= Strong Bad
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  20. Johnnymoto

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    ok you forced my hand...

    while you pussies were figuring out how many bazillion dollars worth of shit you needed to haul while being supported by helicopter, truck, spectator, etc...

    I was rolling down to Cabo on a Vespa hitting some surf breaks along the way...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6q6tWxFoQE
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