Northern VA Chatter Thread

Discussion in 'Southeast, The Lair of the Dragon - The Blue Ridge' started by HBN, Feb 18, 2010.

  1. bwalsh

    bwalsh Long timer

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    I read in the post where the toll climbed the first day to $34.50!!!
  2. HarveyMushman

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    I saw $19 this morning. Traffic was light and moving full speed, but it was that way all along my commute route so probably not indicative of anything. Overcast skies always help.
  3. Capt CF

    Capt CF Pontificating Nobody

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    What time? I saw $6.50 around 6:30. I've never seen higher than $10.50, but I'm guessing traffic is heavier outside the windows I travel in so I am seeing lower rates.
  4. ridin gaijin

    ridin gaijin riding > posting

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    Thanks FAW, appreciated. I did write down what I recalled...in line with your point, the LEO even told me I'd been "fine" until he saw the lane splitting--indeed he had been watching (my helmet is VERY hi-viz)...

    I don't have any expectation of understanding at the hearing, so I've been running the numbers. I expect a $200-$300 fine for starters. A competent attorney would surely not cost less than $500 and likely over $1000.

    So I called Progressive and asked what the impact will be. They told me my motorcycle rate will go up by $75 per year starting in 2018.* The 2012 ticket is already off my record with them.

    Under those conditions, paying for an attorney makes no financial sense. Show up, take my punches, go home.



    * I asked Geico (my auto policy) the same question and they weren't able to quantify the impact. When renewal time comes I'll see where I'm at and maybe switch that to Prog.
  5. HarveyMushman

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    7:30 or so.
  6. Riteris

    Riteris Dessert Runner

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    Be careful what you wish for. Come spring, I fear there will be a lot of untrained noobs on bikes. There will then be a shortage of motorcycle parking spots in DC.
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  7. DCrider

    DCrider Live from THE Hill

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    Thought there was already
  8. HarveyMushman

    HarveyMushman Long timer

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    Parking's not a problem. :D

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  9. Capt CF

    Capt CF Pontificating Nobody

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    Ugh.. I sure hope not. Half these people can't even drive much less pilot a moto. :fpalm
  10. Capt CF

    Capt CF Pontificating Nobody

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    You sure they won't suspend your license for 6 mos? That's worth attorney's fees right there. Reckless in VA is actually a class 1 misdemeanor (same category as DWI, assault, etc.). I think it stays on your driving record for 11 years so this may be strike 2. Honestly, if it were me I'd hire a lawyer and at least get it down to something that is just a ticket/points/fine and not something that will become a conviction and part of your permanent criminal record.
  11. ridin gaijin

    ridin gaijin riding > posting

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    For lane splitting?

    I mean, come on, nothin's sure ('ceptin death & taxes), but my record's not horrible. I wasn't speeding or hazmatting or CDLing or killin anyone.
  12. Capt CF

    Capt CF Pontificating Nobody

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    I'm not a LEO or an attorney, but if you get convicted of reckless driving that's one of the penalties they can levy. What did they call it? Did they cite you for "driving two vehicles abreast"? The list is here - https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/drivers/#points_6.asp

    EDIT - not sure I'd hire these guys, but they have some info on their site that may be useful: http://www.fairfaxreckless.com/reckless-laws/driving-two-abreast/

    Any chance you can say you were escorting someone or part of a parade? :lol3
  13. XDragRacer

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    VA, to the best of my knowledge and belief, in recent years "legalized" two motorcycles riding abreast in a single lane (q.v., "C.H.I.P.S.").

    EDIT:
    DISCLAIMER: I realize two MOTORCYCLES were not involved in this court case under discussion.

    Discussion Topic: Will any state (other than California) ever countenance/permit/approve motorcycle lane-splitting?
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  14. elnonio

    elnonio shedding n00bness

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    Gonna be back in VA for a month, returning Friday. Hope to catch a ride. Later!

    Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk
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  15. DCrider

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    One DC inmate that got reckless in VA for speeding was not allowed to drive in VA for a year and had to return at the end of the year to the judge and prove he had no new moving violations, else if I recall he'd give him the jail time that was suspended. And if I recall he had to have a friend drive him or took the bus down at the end of that year so he would not violate the no driving requirement. Outcome all seems to depend on the judge, even if the Leo says you were cooperative. PITA
  16. Capt CF

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    I think it's pretty harsh to write him for RD when he was only getting out of a nasty situation so was only "lane splitting" (if you even want to call it that) for a second or two. It's not like he was doing laps around the beltway between lanes. Then again, now that I think about it, in other states that I've been stopped in it is a pretty frequent occurrence for the officer to write me for something lesser (proves a point and they get their money), but not in VA. In VA they always put whatever I was doing in the worst possible light and categorize it as such on the citation. VA laws are one reason I stopped riding sport bikes.
  17. ridin gaijin

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    He wrote "Reckless Driving Motorcycle Splitting lanes."

    Just, wow.

    Yeah, he even said I was "fine" before that. As part of my (probably doomed) effort in court, I wonder if it makes sense to point out that if I'd really been in a rush, I'd have been speeding. And lane splitting the length of 123. But this was evasive action.
  18. Porcupine224

    Porcupine224 Somewhere West of Goose Creek

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    Picked up a 14 S-10 last Spring and put 10K on it in the next 7 months. It never missed a beat, I added a couple of farkles and plan on taking it to the Pacific Northwest next fall. Bulletproof motor, with cruise control and shaft drive and Mitas E07s. You can tweak the suspension to your liking and if you don't like the fueling you can get a cheap flash to make it even better. It checks all the boxes for me. Show up at the Romney rally next year and see a parking lot full of S-10s.
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  19. Nomad05

    Nomad05 Been here awhile

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    Is Rt66 free to motorcycles during HOV restricted hours?
    If so, do Motos need to carry EZ-Pass?
  20. Capt CF

    Capt CF Pontificating Nobody

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    Yes, free, no EZ-Pass needed.
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