Now I know why cars hate lane splitters..

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by HOFNAR, Aug 5, 2013.

  1. FloorPoor

    FloorPoor Been here awhile

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    A few years ago I had to drive a dually pickup with an 8x18 cargo trailer through the bay area on my way to job. TWICE in about 30 min. lane splitting motorcycles hit my vehicle. One guy tagged his pannier on the dual wheel cover, and another guy tagged his elbow on my towing mirror.

    It spooked me a bit that they were going so much faster then the flow of traffic, I was a bit worried I would run over one or cut one off while making a lane change.
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  2. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    You must have missed the sign that says "Trucks Right Lane", towing a trailer you are a truck and limited to 55 mph.


    I wish I could figure out the Tour Busses in the fast lane doing 85 mph blowing past cops on the downhill's and 50 mph belching black smoke on the uphill's. :scratch
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  3. DudeClone

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    i've nothing but love for all the lane splitters out there. for the commuter its what makes riding worth it all. i didn't split for around 18 months when i first started riding. then after some conversation and observation i started splitting and haven't stopped. it becomes natural on the bike, or as one guy said in a video "its just what motorcycles do." for me its pretty much automatic, all other things being equal. which means when riding conditions permit

    natural. thats what it feels like. there is a space, i am riding into it. pretty simple. the only thing that could make me stop riding is if they made it illegal in Cali. or if i moved to a state where they really enforce the law, and / or the public would hate me and run me off the road. call 911 on my "reckless" ass. i just cannot be stuck behind cars anymore. or stuck behind two dozen blocking my way doing 35mph in a 45mph zone. they are getting split. if i can't do it, i can't ride. i mean, seriously? in some places no one ever, ever lane splits in city traffic? i would rather take a bus or carpool if the law took it away. let someone else drive if i have to be stuck in traffic

    please don't hate ME, just speaking for this rider. if you happen to drive and see me on the road. as i pass remember, i just did you a big favor. if only others would get on bikes and do the same :ricky
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  4. windmill

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    It should be this easy, but unfortunately there are enough riders out there (and a few here) who lack the judgment, consideration, and self control to do it unobtrusively.

    Its a real talent some have to take something positive that benefits everybody, and turn it into yet another reason to hate motorcycles.
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  5. windmill

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    Its not legal here in Washington, and I rarely see anyone take the chance as it is enforced..

    Riding is still an advantage, you can use the carpool lanes, and its easier to get through traffic even if your a conservative rider.
    Its simply a matter of adapting to your environment.
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  6. DudeClone

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    ^

    well that is good to hear from an experienced rider. i sometimes think of the various locales people ride and some have no traffic, some are wide open spaces, and some is highway or a bit of all types of riding within a day or week.

    i guess when you like to ride, like you said, you adapt. and the way you put it, it sounds like you just find a way. a different way

    i guess i just forgot my first 18 months of riding when i NEVER split. you're right now that i recall, i did fine. would do fine again

    be reasonable, stay riding :clap

    i sure do LOVE the split, though. i am glad it is a reality of riding for me, daily
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  7. Thorgrim

    Thorgrim Used'ta could

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    I so much wish that TN would legalize it. It's pretty pointless to make me wait behind a car that's spewing CO, when we all know that I'll jump him when the light changes. I could easily putt-putt up to the front, I promise I'll be gone before you wake up and realize the light has changed.

    Speaking of that, it's something that happens regularly in "upper east" Tennessee that I've never seen elsewhere. The traffic light turns green, and everybody just sits there. I've been in traffic behind cages where a "short" light makes a full cycle, green/amber/red and no one has moved. What's even worse, nearly every day I get behind someone who gets to a traffic light and stops ... and it was green when they got there. Like the little steering wheel sticking out of the waistband of me kilt, it drives me nuts.

    If I could split legally, I could avoid 99.3% of the bad things that happen to motorcyclists here, because I would be long gone when they happened. Score one for Cali ... finally.
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  8. DirtyOldMan

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    Once again, if it's so crowded where you live that you get traffic jams splitting lanes between the jammed traffic, some of you folks need to move. Spread out a little fer cryin out loud.
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  9. FloorPoor

    FloorPoor Been here awhile

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    [QUOTE towing a trailer you are a truck and limited to 55 mph.[/QUOTE]

    California does have a lot of super lame rules that make no sense, and 55 wasn't a problem on that day. I was feeling lucky when I hit 25.

    You guys do haul ass though. I can see why people hate you if you frequently make contact with cages.
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  10. Colorado Col Rider

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    Pretty much this sums it up. I doubt many motorcycles make contact with cars, I doubt many riders are flying down the lanes irresponsibly, and I doubt they impact traffic really at all other than you're getting there first and like Dwoodward implied, that isn't fair!:deal
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  11. windmill

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    I disagree, people are not as dumb as we want/need them to be, outside of California they know its illegal same as merging across the gore point or running a red.
    I never got hassled doing it legally in California, but sure did doing it illegally in Jersey in my younger days.
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  12. BeMeUp

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    Here's my take. A$$hole$ are A$$hole$. You take an A$$hole out of a cage and put him/her on a bike.....................You got an A$$hole on a bike.:deal Just be excellent to each other, and lose all the hate! :hide
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  13. motorat

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    since my job changed 3 years ago i now have about 18 miles of 101 north marin in my commute.
    the afternoon drive home is almost always splitting from atherton ave to petaluma.
    most of the idiots i encounter are on 2 wheels.
    i can see you behind me and i will get out of your way when i have a spot to move into there is no need to sit back there and rev you engine anounce to all humanity that you are an impatient jerk and the world revolves around you and your motorcycle.
    my split seed is usually 15 to 20 mph over auto traffic.
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  14. Colorado Col Rider

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    :nod +1000
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  15. pretbek

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    Illegal like speeding.
    These are people that are willing to injure you (swerve, open doors) "because it is illegal" and after the light turns green will happily cruise along at 70 in a 55.

    But that is probably because almost everyone goes faster than the speed limit on highways, while not everyone (as in almost no one) lane splits outside California.
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  16. khager

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    I don't know, I see it quite often in Dallas/Fort Worth, not so much at lights but during traffic jams on the freeways. Certainly not a majority of the bikers, but quite a few, and not at all unusual to see them. I bet most big cities are like this during peak periods of congestion or a major traffic tie-up
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  17. rocker59

    rocker59 diplomatico di moto

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    Hell... Unfortunately, I have that thought more than I should have to, and after over 100,000 miles on two wheels...

    Bunch of asshats out there, for sure...
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  18. Kootenai Rider

    Kootenai Rider Gentleman of Liesure

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    Rev your brake light. :evil
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