Nuvi 500 and TOPO issue's, some questions.

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by mazman808, May 18, 2012.

  1. mazman808

    mazman808 Been here awhile

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    Hey guys, how are we?

    Im having issue's with my Nuvi500 ( i think very similar to nuvi 550 as well), and using mapsource with Shonky maps, I'll try to explain and see if someone has some simple answers, im fairly new to this so it may be simple but not for me.

    Going on a trip soon, a friend that also has a Garmin GPS did all the work routing our way and then he sent me the file via email, i downloaded it and had a browse of it on mapsource program.
    A few things i didnt like so i modified it, added more waypoints.
    All up there are 10 days of routes, so 10 different files, all named differently etc...(day1, day2 day3 etc)

    Tried sending it to my GPS and it stated all good, when i went to import them from my gps(import file) some of the files worked, and some did not.
    The ones that did not gave me this message:
    1). Cannot calculate the route.No roads near the starting point
    And
    2). Cannot calculate the route. No roads near the destination.
    So those files failed to be imported so i cannot use them in my GPS.

    Does anyone know what the above two mean and if it can be solved, and how please?

    Another problem:
    I have say a route with 400 waypoints( nuvi 500 says can do 500 waypoints), and when i try to do the same thing, import the file to use it, i get a cannot import, too many via points!

    If this GPS cannot do something simple like this, do you guys know if the GPS60, gps62 would? would these one be able to do tracks(that you do on your mapsource software) and then load it to your gps and it wont have waypoints etc issues?
    How does Tracking work? my nuvi500 wont download tracks, so cant experiment, do tracks have via points/waypoints? or do you simply draw a line where you want to follow and then thats what you see on your gps screen?

    So hard...
    Thank you to anyone who can help/explain.
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  2. biker128pedal

    biker128pedal Super Lurker

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    Your map on the GPS my not match the map you have on Mapsource. Try BaseCamp and select the map on the NUVI 500 then build fix the routes. That has helped for me. I don't really like BaseCamp but this is one advantage it has. Just wish the PC version would let me delete data on the NUVI directly.
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  3. mazman808

    mazman808 Been here awhile

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    Ok, ill try the basecamp when i get home from work.
    I have and use shonkymaps on the mapsource software to make my routes and also use shonkymaps on my gps unit,citynav i disabled on my gps.

    Thanks for the reply,ill have a bit more play of it during the weekend
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  4. mazman808

    mazman808 Been here awhile

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    Tried basecamp, couldnt get it figured out.

    The files that didnt work, i started from scratch again and redid the route, saved it as gpx file and transfered to GPS.
    Imported it to the unit and it worked, so im happy there... except one thing, there are hundred of those flags(mine are like greenish coloured) along the way, im guessing they are the via points?

    They are very annoying and i would love to change the flags to a simple square/dot.
    On mapsource i see them as little squares, yet once on my unit they are huge flags, and when close to an intersection with lots of via points they are in the way of route/road.

    In the mapsource settings: Edit>Preference>Waypoints i change to the small dot but it doesnt seem to apply it to my gps unit once transfered.
    Anyone else have this problem.
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  5. biker128pedal

    biker128pedal Super Lurker

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    There is software which will convert the flags to dots for a route. It may be GPSBabel. But I feel for you. Garmin software is such a headache. If my NUVI 500 would show any track I select without having to convert it to a map I would be happy. Or if routes wold keep their preferences I have separated from a group because the NUVI rerouted me on a different road. This is bad when you are waiting at a turn for the group to catch up and no one shows.

    I was just trying to setup Activity Profiles in BaseCamp to Match what I use on the NUVI 500. Of course the NUVI has Highways and BaseCamp has Interstates, Major Highways and State Highways. :cry Now to figure out if Highway is all three. This will take some experimentation.

    Here are setting in Basecamp that seem to map like the NUVI Setting for faster and no avoidances. This is a start. I made an activity profile in Basecamp. X indicates selected.
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    NUVI Faster No Avoidances
    NUVI 500 (Settings/Navigation)...BaseCamp Settings (Options/Activity Profile)
    Route Preference
    ..Faster Time............................... Faster Time X
    ..Shorter Distance........................ Shorter Distance
    ..Off Road
    Avoidances.................................Avoidances (Note Road Type and Feature Type)
    ..U-Turns ..........................................U-Turns
    ..Highways .......................................Interstate
    ........................................................Major Highways
    ........................................................State Highways
    ..Toll Roads ......................................Toll Roads
    ..Traffic
    ..Ferries ...........................................Ferries
    ..Carpool Lanes ................................Carpool Lanes
    ..Unpaved Roads ..............................Unpaved Roads X
    ........................................................Residential Roads X
    ........................................................Date & Time Closures
    ........................................................Climbing Paths X
    ........................................................Cable Cars X
    [FONT=&quot].....................................................................Narrow Trials[/FONT] X
    (The NUVI 500 seem to avoid residential roads at all cost)

    Anyone try the ExpertGPS.com tips for a NUVI 500 or any Garmin? Looks like software to manage the maps on a computer and not tips for the NUVI.

    Well pay for what you get as he Montana owners will tell me. Yes but for that kind of money more maps should be provided. :wink:
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  6. Ogre_fl

    Ogre_fl Long timer

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    I think you are confusing way points and via points.

    You are correct and the Nuvi can hold 500 way points.
    However, it can only handle routes with no more than 200 via points per route.

    You have to either break up the routes more so each one has no more than 200 via points or delete via points so that each one has no more than 200 via points.

    The via points in a route do not count against your 500 way point total.

    I loaded 10 each 200 via point routes to my Nuvi 550 (2000 total via points) and it handled it fine.
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  7. biker128pedal

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    Good to know. Thanks.
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  8. biker128pedal

    biker128pedal Super Lurker

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    I was able to put some of Topo100 on a 16GB card and see the map on my NUVI 500. Now putting the lower 48 states on the card. That is if I can wait 38 hours. If this works I can pull the old Topo off so I can update the road maps. Oh looks like both are visible at the same time.
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