Nwgs Jeep'n Thread

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by nwgs, May 20, 2007.

  1. Road Rash

    Road Rash Infamous

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    Cool to see a Mercedes off road and not in a Starbucks parking lot.

    I've met Sasquatch, yeah, he's a real snob :lol3

    And since he has already highjacked this thread with a non-jeep vehicle, I'll add mine :D

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  2. Juice Box

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  3. Jhon

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    Cool thread NWGS. :thumb

    Like you, I love my Jeep'n (almost as much as my motorcycling!)

    Here’s a couple of photos from recent trials, which my club runs on a monthly basis.
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    We set up eight sections using natural terrain and make it more difficult by placing ‘gates’, using canes and marker poles along the course.
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    You get points if you hit a cane, come to a halt, miss a gate, etc.
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    All sorts of vehicles take part and it’s good crack!
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    The Jeep does well at most events. It has several advantages over the other vehicles like Land Rover 90’s that are in my class; great axle articulation, rear LSD, superb low-down torque and a much better turning circle all help keep the points down.
    Some of the disadvantages are – the breakover angle isn’t as good and the long bonnet can make sighting tricky on steep climbs.
    Oh, and it’s a thirsty SOB and gearing and axle mods are more expensive.
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    I’ve always loved Jeeps and this one is my first. I came to Jeeps after running land Rovers for twenty years; all sorts from a 1957 Series 1 (with V8) to a V8 90 with diff-locks, auto-box, cage and other mods.
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    The TJ has been modded; I’m trying to strike a balance between off-road capability and on-road drivability.
    A mild OME (2 ½”) suspension lift, Cobra seats, 31” mud tyres, Borla SS exhaust, anti-sway disconnects and a Slip-yoke eliminator all help.
    I know if I went to larger tyres I’d have to regear (expensive!) fit a body lift, change the suspension again, etc. It’s not worth it.
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    Looking at you videos – nice rig. :thumb (I’m guessing that’s a modified YJ?) Do you prefer leaf springs to coils? I’ve found that even with quality aftermarket springs and damper set-ups that the leafs do not articulate as well as coils. Apart from simplicity, I see no advantage that the leafs offer over coils. (I’m prepared to be educated tho’)
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    A final point to ponder. I'm coming to the conclusion that for (non-competition) maximum fun off-road it would be better to fit skinny balding all-terrain tyres, rather than 35" Super Swampers and ARB diff locks.
    If a vehicle is truly capable of going everywhere, the challenges that the driver has to set-it get more and more extreme, the skills of the driver start to be of secondary importance. With a mildly modded vehicle there’s more emphasis on the driver and consequently greater satisfaction when obstacles are overcome, particularly when other more heavily modified vehicles have tried and failed.
    In our club we've found that a competent driver in an average vehicle will get further and score better than an average driver in a competent vehicle.
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    Having said that I still want a Unimog!
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  4. MarkC

    MarkC Genuine Adventurer

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    Not sure what it is, saw it in north east Russia being driven.
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  5. JohnTM

    JohnTM I suck toes

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    prototype mars explorer. :lol3


    So I don't know much about jeeping. Answer me some questions:

    Automatic or manual transmission?

    Electric or hydraulic winch?
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  6. Ruffus

    Ruffus Dirty Old Mudder

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    most hard core rock crawling is so much easier with an auto, for everything else I'd rather have a stick

    Hydro winches can usually go nonstop, but you have to keep your engine running, electric winches have to be used intermitently, I was taught 3 seconds on 5 seconds off, but if your engine dies in deep water for example, you can still pull your self to safety as long as your battery holds out
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  7. nwgs

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    Road Rash we call all the rigs Jeeps. We have a race in Richland this weekend. My rig is home built. I still call it a Jeep.
    My Grandpa used to call all bikes Honda's. Funny.
    Yes WC's is a sprung over YJ on 35's. Most of us run 35's with a couple 36's.
    I do prefer the leaf springs to coils. They seem to have a softer ride. Surprisingly I have done the RTI ramps and I'm so close to the Rubicons it doesn't matter. In fact at the point the spring rigs beat me they are almost always losing springs. :lol3


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    Here's a Rubicon that did not score as high. With a 4" lift and Nth degree swing arms.
    He disconnected his shocks cause I beat him. Scored a smidge higher than me, then blew out his rear driveline from the overflex then next week.
    Here he is before the shock disconnect.



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    Here's one of our race Jeeps, They don't flex as much.
    He won the points championship last year and is super fast.
    You'll see more of him as the season rolls on.
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    Here's another. First one is in the long class.
    This one is short.


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    Here's Tammy Nwgs wifelet. aka "Better Half" and ours. 60 rear 44 front.
    Rear coil and front leaf. 383 stroker about 550 hp.
    If I can keep it from breakin. I'll have some pics from this coming weekend up next week.

    Girls and Kids all race. Some of the girls kick some serious but.
    When they got their game face on, I just get outa the way.



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  8. jerdog53

    jerdog53 Crop Dusting Everywhere

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  9. nwgs

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    Electric winch seems to be the way to go. The new tech especially with the rock crawling machines they have now. They have some brutally mean winches.
    Mine blew over the weekend I had a little 8000 that was a little overworked. I'm gona get a 9500 with rope rather than cable. 125' capacity.
    I like the rope better for long pulls. Mostly pulling others. Haha. We rescued a guy last fall. The only winch point was up a steep cliff. Nice to have the lightweight rope rather than the heavy cable.
    Some guys like the automatic trans. I like the manual more control. The guys that like the autos can rock them back and forth without working the clutch. Also less chance for clutch foot slip. I personally just like the gear ratio on the clutch. More choices.
    Here's a place you don't want clutch slip.

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  10. richard cabesa

    richard cabesa The Mayor

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    Not a jeep but check this guy out

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  11. Road Rash

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    Well my ol'Blazer has a little in common with your rig, 60 rear, 44 front with a 383 stroker, I don't have that many horsey's but she's got some good pullin power.
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  12. Road Rash

    Road Rash Infamous

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    :eek1 Shit!...........................................I think "save of the day" is an under statement :eek1
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  13. Lone Rider

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    Autos allow you to drive with both feet. Smoother when working your way over obstacles, unless you're going the super granny crawler route, but that becomes too slow and actually boring. Good cooling on the autos is a must, and also choosing the correct convertor for your type of wheeling.

    I have a very low opinion of winch ropes when used in real off road recovery situations. Abrasion will kill them fast, and they're expensive to replace. It's hard to beat a wire rope - just use normal safety precautions.

    Hydraulic winches driven from a power steering pump (MileMarker) are slower than the Earth turns. Sure, 2 speeds, but the high speed won't pull the stick out of a popsicle.

    There are different types of electric winches. Just because one is labeled 8,000# doesn't mean it's like another labeled with the same rating. Permanent magnet motor winches are inexpensive, relatively speaking, and do a good job when used within the limits of for what they're designed for. Series wound motor winches are the heavier duty winches.

    Winch motors build heat when they're under load, and that varies depending on the load. No load = almost no heat, over max capability = much heat very fast. Then there's the in between...where you actually use it. Other than wear and tear, heat is what kills the winch motor.

    Saying 'x' time on and 'x' time off is correct, but only for a situation when that is correct. That's never an abosolute.

    A motor will be pulling much greater amps under a 5,000# load when the cable is on top of 3 layers of cable (above the winch drum diameter) than when pulling the same 5,000# just over the bare drum. Winch ratings are calculated and labeled based on pulling power on a bare drum/1st layer.

    There's also a difference between planetary gear and worm gear winches, holding/bralking capacity being just a part of that.

    Then we have PTO winches....:D

    I'm gonna stop.
    You can kill yourself or a friend with a winch..and you can also save lives.
    I love em, they are the juice...
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  14. easyridin5150

    easyridin5150 To young to feel this old

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    Most excellent save!:clap
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  15. heynowref

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    Had a '78 CJ5 for a few years in hs and college - still miss that damn thing
    not enough room in the garage or the budget to have the bike and the Jeep
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  16. richard cabesa

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    I spent alot of time at the Pismo dunes in the past and saw too many 4 wheelers that made that mistake and didn't make the save. It wasn't pretty, alot of broken faces, and worse :grim
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  17. nwgs

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    Thanks for the tip. After thinking about the winch rope and your input I decided against the winch rope. The times I have used the rope where weight is a concern are few. Also I have seen them bind and become hard to unspool. Well cable also but more on the rope.
    Decided on this one. It will fit the my existing ARB bumper. Still plenty of cable length.
    http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/src/9.5si_MOSFET.shtml
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  18. JasonH

    JasonH Been here awhile

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    Here's another of the non-Jeep variety. :D 79 FJ40. I've had it for around 11 years.

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  19. Jhon

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    That's real nice.:thumb
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  20. mxchamp

    mxchamp Registered Lurker

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    Wanted one of those, but found my Jeep locally.

    I would post a phots but for some reason, I can't post attachements here on Jo momma.

    I can elsewhere but not here??????

    Could somebody please tell me why? :ear

    Thanks

    JJ
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