nwgs motorhome addiction and therapy thread

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by nwgs, May 20, 2009.

  1. EvilClown

    EvilClown Reality show stunt double Super Moderator

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  2. cjbiker

    cjbiker Nobody's Robot

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    That is too cool. Good thing I could live in it, 'cause I wouldn't be living in the house if I dragged it home :deal
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    team ftb Befuddled Adventurer

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    I was hoping a large chain and padlock would keep most people away on the trip. Once back in town it goes back inside.
  5. Da Bear

    Da Bear Twisted toy maker

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    It's been a little over a month or so since we brought our 2003 Newmar Dutchstar home and parked it in the driveway. Since our driveway is just dirt, with a thin layer of crushed rock over it, I made a set of four 12"x12"x4" pads out of pressure treated lumber and positioned them under the jacks before activating them. In no time at all, we were nice and level, and the slides were out. last week I was doing some work changing a set of blinds over the galley window ( I hate those metal mini blinds,and I had a nice honeycombed Bali that fit perfectly in the space and matched too boot) all of a sudden, the rig lurched at the back, and there was an awful sound .It was well after dark by this time so I grabbed my flash light and went out into the rain(This is Oregon after all) got down on the ground and shined it on the right rear jack. I couldn't crawl under there, but everything looked stable enough to wait 'til daylight.
    The next morning I went out to survey the damage. I won't repeat what I said. However, a 2 foot across sink-hole, about 18 inches deep had opened up under the jack.You can imagine the words that came forth. We had some sewer work done a few years ago and there must have been a void in there just waiting for 16,000 pounds of RV to find it. The pad I had made, in this instance did more harm than good, as the hole opened up in just the right place for it to tilt into the hole, causing the foot to come off the jack. The end of the hydraulic piston was embedded deep in the hole where I couldn't see it. I retracted the jacks. they all came up except that one. Ok Plan "B" owners manual, manual retraction, ok got it. followed them to the letter. No good. OK, plan "C" Start up rig let suspension air bags fill. unit lifts. Place filler in hole then set 2x6 chunk between it and jack piston. dump air, forcing piston upwards. Repeat as needed until levelling system warning light goes out and shrill alarm stops. reversed all of the instructions on the manual retraction. and now we're ready to roll, from the looks of things, I'm going to at least need a new retractor spring. I hope to hell those feet are designed to do what this one did. A new jack would be a serious pain right now. I'll get under it again tomorrow when I can get it onto solid concrete and try to get the foot back in place......
  6. MeanMoe

    MeanMoe one really mean cat

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    Glad you were able to get it retracted. Our RV parking area looks like pothole city. My best guess is that the contractor failed to compact the grading before the 6" slab was poured. The jacks have made several holes even with pads underneath. I'd love to replace the whole section but don't have the coin. Will patch and use wider pads.
  7. LC Garage

    LC Garage On Any Sunday

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    Voltage at furnace connector with engine off and not plugged into shore power is 10 volts, plugged into shore power it is 12 volts. Since almost any testing or diagnosis requires pulling the furnace, I've ordered a sail switch (odds are that is the problem) as well as a limit switch, when those arrive will pull furnace, check and replace switches, clean everything and re-install. Hopefully the next report will be with a working furnace. Thanks again for the tips and help!
  8. smoky

    smoky Been here awhile

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    Some time ago, I found a line of well respected diesel pushers. The model I liked was about 40', with an entry at the front.

    The ones I could afford, were made in the late 80's and early 90's.

    They look like a Bluebird Wonderlodge. All metal construction, no slideouts.

    I can't remember what they are called, anybody help me??
  9. FAW3

    FAW3 Old wanderer

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    Inital thoughts....

    All metal...entry at front: perhaps a converted MCI or Prevost? Conversions were done by several firms, some on new coaches and some after service. Wide range of interiors/plans.

    All metal...most made with mid entry: Newell.

    Or could be a Wanderlodge...my FC is the "school bus" style...in late 80's BlueBird changed chassis/bodys to resemble the mainline RV style. These were typically 40'...the telling of most Wanderlodges of this era is the distinctive "goat rail" around the roof perimeter and a sturdy rear ladder for the heavy alum. plate roof deck and two spotlights on the front.

    If you go to Wanderlodge Owners Group and look at the coaches for sale...you will see a range of the styles. A site for many other brands (Prevost/MCI) is busforsale.com
  10. smoky

    smoky Been here awhile

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    Thanks Faw3 ,

    I found what I was looking for: it's the Foretravel U320.

    I especially like the above model, built after 1996.

    I start my inquiries now, I hope they have a good reputation.

    Smoky
  11. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    We were discussing these earlier on some of the RV threads. Nice, premium motorhomes that were built in a bewildering variety of sizes and engines in the 1990s. But they aren't steel construction, they are FRP bodied on a variety of chassis.


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  12. smoky

    smoky Been here awhile

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    So I'm new to this. Is FRP a much poorer construction?

    I've been comparing the Bluebirds to the Foretravel. I really like the looks and interiors of the Foretravels. But are the Bluebirds a better coach, and all steel construction?

    Can you direct me to a good forum on these topics?

    Many thanks.
  13. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    FRP isn't as sturdy and can delaminate. Once water gets inside the layers the wood paneling (assuming they used wood sheets, which is common in boat construction) can deteriorate quickly.

    Steel is sturdier. There are plenty of stories of Wanderlodge owners surviving crashes, hurricanes, and fallen trees that would have seriously damaged or destroyed a lessor motorhome.

    With all of that said Wanderlodge was about the last holdout for steel construction and there is a reason for that - steel is hugely heavy, and you get a vehicle with relatively poor fuel mileage (expect about 4.5 mph for a PT series Wanderlodge and maybe 8-9 for a Forward Control). That, and as slideouts became popular the extra weight was just unmanageable.

    So you pays your money and you takes your choices. Foretravels have a reputation for being a really nice FRP build but you probably want to look at the individual unit before any money changes hands.

    Ditto with Wanderlodges - that steel body usually holds up well but sometimes everything else has been neglected.


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  14. Patrick46

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    4.5 MPH????.....WOW!! :eek1


    I figured that if you drove that slowly, you'd get much higher FUEL MILEAGE!! :deal :lol3

    (fixed for yas)
  15. PirateJohn

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    The voice of experience. I had a PT-40 with a 6V92 Detroit Diesel. You might get 5mpg. I did get a little over 5 once between McAllen, TX and Houston but that road is board flat and there was a stiff tail wind.

    Foretravel built some 40 footers with the same 6V92. I have never heard much about them, but when you compare Forward Control Wanderlodges with a mid-sized CAT and a Foretravel with the same engine the Foretravel seems to get 1.5 to 2 mpg better.

    The Wanderlodges with a 6V92 have a 5 speed transmission with an overdrive top gear. I never felt comfortable running over 65 because of handling, stopping, and tire issues (that weight thing again) and tended to keep the speeds down around 55-60. It shifts into overdrive somewhere around 52mph so you don't have much to work with, especially if you have to climb hills. Most of my miles were around Florida and coastal Texas so hill climbing was not an issue.

    In hindsight the Wanderlodges with an 8V92 and a 4 speed automatic seem to get comparable mileage, so there are all sorts of quirks with these things when talking about fuel mileage. You would think that more horsepower would equate to more fuel burn but in a Wanderlodge that is not the case.

    I loved my Wanderlodge but the people that stole it probably did me a favor. My new-to-me diesel Class 5 truck has been returning about 20mpg unloaded, which is significantly more than the previous owner told me to expect. Then again, on these country roads I seldom run faster than the top of the fuel efficiency range according to the tach, and that's 45-50mph.


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  16. Sundog

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    I just ran across this! I looked at that Brave you have pictured, but bought this one down in Santa Cruz a couple weeks later. That one was a 318, but the main issue was the rear bathroom so you have no rear windows. Ours (Petunia) has a rear bed with windows all around and Front bed over the drivers seat, 413, only 40,000 miles when we got it. Put a new carb, fuel pump, shocks, lights, air horn, and quite a few other things.

    Custom 80/20 roof rack and front light bar! Cost about as much as Petunia did!

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  17. FAW3

    FAW3 Old wanderer

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    That is a nice looking little Brave!

    Our RV has nice big windows and the rear bedroom has glass on both sides and the rear...really nice to visit a scenic area and be able to enjoy the view. Dark tinted glass prevents folks outside from doing the same...:evil

    Enjoy!
  18. Roll-sen

    Roll-sen Hater be Hatin'

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    Hey Sundog, can you elaborate on the bike rack shown here?? Does it plug into the receiver, or is it mounted to the frame somehow? Any issues with stability of the bike on the rack, and does it affect stability or steering of the coach?

    Any pics of the rack and how it mounts would be cool!
  19. sailwing2003

    sailwing2003 Been here awhile

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    smokie asked about a Foretravel info source. I would suggest 'Foreform' search on Google. A huge wealth of info, plus in the links go to Barry Beam's info on spec.s.

    He has listed every year's specs, and floorplans.

    I looked hard at Wanderlodge, and bought a Foretravel. Do a search in this thread, lots has been said. Or PM me for more. But I bought 10 year newer, 10k lighter, for more than $10K less and get better mph. After two years, 100 nights, 4500 miles, we are very happy.
  20. PirateJohn

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    Anyone interested in establishing an RV park for motorcyclists and assorted likeminded misfits? Some place in South Texas near the border?

    Just got off the phone with a realtor and he seems to have some things where the numbers make sense and they are within 10 minutes of a border town. If I am not back to work by Tuesday I think that I'll ride down and take a look.


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