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Discussion in 'Pacific Northwet - Where it's green. And wet.' started by jcloer1, Nov 30, 2013.
I've got all that... I'm probably going to order the paper maps as well. Just to be safe..
Ok, ordered the following maps:
Route 5 section 2.
I also have the GPS tracks. We should be good to go.
I don't have any of it yet, but will likely buy a full set of maps at some point. Also, I believe one of the inmates that plans on attending has a set...
Yep, see post #61
Definitely think a meet and greet is in order, you know, put a face to the handle before we all end up spending five days and nights together! Sounds like most folks are from the pdx area...?
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Agreed. I've heard some horror stories from a guy I use to ride with about this ride and how people can be. I think it may be harder for people to leave you for dead if they actually know you. Maybe I'm naive about that.
For those in the PDX area wanting to do this ride, we should get together for a few rides prior so we get a better feel for how we all ride. I'm not the fastest one reason being I'm new to such a big bike (DR650) and I'm not totally comfortable on it yet. I'm planning on doing the PSSOR BDR training tour so by the time the OBDR comes around I'll be MUCH more comfortable and have developed some better skilz.
I agree. It would also be good to get an idea of every once skill level when we meet up to help plan pace/route.
I am available most weekends to meet for riding/lunch. Lets see what looks like a dry day to get out and set a meet up.
Yep. I'm out of state on business next weekend but I believe I'm free the next after that.
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Awesome! glad I dragged my feet on purchasing the tracks.
What horror stories?
Plenty of us live near the routes and can help, but I can't even imagine what the horror stories could be.
I would recommend more than one gps in the group. We also carried paper maps, never used em. The gps routes are pretty foolproof.
Not really my story to tell so I'll summarize. It had to do with the people on the route with him, not the route itself. Issues with the bike and nobody wanting to help or someone causing a crash which he got hurt and they telling him it wasn't their issue. Just basically people being dicks. I'd never leave someone in a lurch like that regardless if it screwed up my ride.
One of the reasons I was considering doing this by myself.
Ah, makes sense...and yea, not a trip you want to take with people that you can't count on. If going alone, make sure you are stocked up on technology, plus posting here needing assistance will almost always get you a response. I live 10 miles or so from the 3,4 intersection and always have time to go pick up a broken bike, as do many people in the area.
It's a great ride, you'll love it.
I think you'll find the majority of this ADV crowd to be a bit more....one for all - all for one. That has certainly been my experience riding with ADV strangers. It certainly is my highest priority when I ride with a group.
On that note, some travellers all well endowed with GPS might just wanna ride faster than the every-intersection buddy system allows. But when that person behind breaks down, crashes or just gets a flat, they get left alone, and the leaders are stuck wondering how to find him.....or maybe decide to just leave him because they have no idea how far back he may be. The every-intersection buddy system might slow down a group, but it might save a huge potential hassle/worry situation that would be avoided if riders kept track of each other. The world can wait; don't be in that big of a hurry just to meet a silly distance goal. You might just miss the best parts of the trip, which isn't neccessarily about the actual riding. IMO, it's about the "trip" and the guys you are riding with all having a good time. When I'm out riding, each current moment is all that matters, and everything else can just wait.
I am a firm believer in waiting for the whole group at intersections to avoid loosing riders. Nothing worse then feeling you were left behind. I have been in groups before where it felt like it was a race and everyone had to fend for them selves and its no fun.
When I want to go fast I go to the track. One of the reasons I stopped riding my sport bike on the streets and bought an adventure bike (or as my daughter calls it, an old mans bike ) for street riding and commuting instead . Now I am finding that I am enjoying the scenery much more and look forward to exploring new areas.
Yup. Even on our fast street rides my old group would always stop at designated sections for noobies and the inevitable gold wing that decided to join. All for the ride as fast as you want and take in the scenery whenever you hit an intersection.
Almost as bad are guys that were behind me, we'd been riding the buddy system all day, and they decide to take a different route back to camp. I waited at the next intersection like I'd been doing all day, and when I didn't see them, I'd head back looking. After not finding them back to the previous intersection where I saw them last, I'm left assuming they went off the road. Spent an hour on one guy and two hours on the other before giving up. So.....when I get back to camp LATE, they're already fed and half-drunk......then I get to hear "oh, my GPS found a better route". Hmmm. Thanks, fuckers. I missed dinner and my 6pm coctail looking for your inconsiderate ass.
Do NOT leave a group without letting anyone know. They probly will/should go looking for you.
I ride faster and more aggressive than many. And then I happily stop at the next intersection, take a pee, look at maps, take pictures etc. Got no problem waiting.....as long as you eventually make it,...or else I'ma comin' back for ya
Man I wish you were able to make this ride Apple Jam! Sorry the dates don't line up for you.
This will be a first OBDR for many of us and some of us are still pretty new to the sport as well. I enjoy pushing my skills and will likely do so on any side routes we find from camp, but generally speaking I will just be poking along, enjoying the ride. And...currently it looks like my wife will be joining us! She has never been on a dirt bike, so my hope is to pick her up a TW200 or something similar (in seat height and rider comfort). We'll spend as many days as possible riding in the coast range to prepare both of us for this trip, but we will certainly not be speed demons amongst the group! :)
And...I am all about the intersection meet ups. I will have a GPS and a SPOT, but nothing beats keeping eyes on each other.
Be considerate of your fellow riders and agree on what/how you're going to do this BEFORE you start. Communication beforehand is key. Rode this last year on my KLR, awesome trip had a great time. Have fun, looking forward to your future RR.
I rode the OBCDR section 5 with Apple Jam. What he says is the way it should be done. There are ways to speed it up some and not leave any one behind. If you wait for everybody at all the intersections no matter how fast you ride, you will cut your distance down. This is very true the larger the group. I suggest that you have a time (about an hour) so that when that time has elapsed your leader picks the intersection and waits for everyone. In between this time period you always wait for the rider behind you at every intersection, and then you go when you know that person is there. I worked out with the guy who was usually behind me a signal system. I would park in the intersection facing where I needed to go. When the next rider saw me he would give me the arm signal of the direction that he needed to turn. I knew he saw me and where to go and would then go on and he would wait for the next rider. If everyone does this it helps to speed it up a little.
Read the RR that you guys put up on your ride. Sounded like you guys had a great time. Also sounded like the OOHVA maps weren't particularly useful. I've got the tracks from Treknow but I don't like relying on GPS alone.
I've done this type of intersection waiting thing with other rides and it worked great. I'm not sure who'll be leading this ride, if anyone but we'll make the suggestion.
Sounded like the dinners you did were group meals. Personally, I think I'd rather depend on myself for food, why did you guys decide to do it that way?
I also read some of the bigger bikes were pushing nearly 800-900 lbs. I found that shocking. Were you guys carrying a LOT of stuff? I want to travel as light as possible. Any tips on things you wish you didn't carry or did?