Observations of someone who surfs and rides...what are yours?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by stoke, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. EggChaser

    EggChaser Been here awhile

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    As a snowboarder that also skis (never surfed) I agree with the clear head good observation comments. Order of learning each skill = Snowboard, Motorcycle, Skis

    Also I found that off-road motorcycling/mountain biking helped the skiing due to weighting the outside foot more in a turn. My ski instructor actually said normally motorcyclists that try to ski weight the inside foot - I then asked if she knew if they stayed on the road or whether the ever used a racetrack or went off-road - she thought they had only been road riders.

    Motorcycling in general helped my balance on both the snowboard and skis. I actually learnt to ride a motorcycle after the snowboard and there were some steeps that I always crashed my snowboard on as I was leaning back too much whilst entering the steep sections. Motorcycling and being used to not leaning back when rapidly heading towards potential hazards sorted out a 'headspace' issue that was causing me to lean back on snow equipment. I had one of my best snowboard trips ever about 3 months after I learnt to motorcycle.
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  2. jsalman93

    jsalman93 Been here awhile

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    I have found it really hard to balance what to do on my days off from work. If I go riding to malibu, I wish I had brought my truck and surfboard, and if I go surfing I start to think of how good of a day it would have been to go riding :lol3

    But really, I have found that my surfing skills helped me improve my riding, with regards to coordination and upper and lower body strength.

    Any riders find a decent way to carry a 9' 2" on their bikes yet :evil
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  3. booniebasher

    booniebasher Been here awhile

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    i think we are born to carve, that g force , the feel of your edge on the edge using you body to compensate , your brain telling you every move and the joy of the roost, fishtail,
    priceless
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  4. Andy Strapz

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    I agree that there are lots of similarities in all these "rush" sports. What I love about surfing is the time I can sit out the back, waiting for a set and just totally zone out. Sitting on my board checking out the sea, the coast and absorbing the calm. Seriously dangerous on a bike! And... falling off can be fun in the water.

    Yeah, there is a serious lack of etiqutte in the ocean these days. We shouldn't lose sight of this and always acknowledge and consider a fellow rider.
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  5. i_4ce

    i_4ce wants a WeeStrom

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    Is there a surf board equivelant of a Harley? longboard?
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  6. miguelitro

    miguelitro Chuchaqui

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    you got it:rofl but there must be a leash on that longboard to reduce any actual cross stepping, nose riding, and soul surfing.:deal those are the quivilent of the doo rag and leather vest.
    Mike
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  7. chazbird

    chazbird Long timer

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    Used to surf. In my memory the mid and certainly in the late 70's is when it went "agro", first with the "surf nazi's", then the "surf punks" and I guess now its just about everyone. I suppose that's what happens when there's near exponential growth in a resource limited environment. I can tell you "back then" you'd never see some 35 year old young turk lawyers get out of their Escalade (or whatever) strip off their suits and into wet suits and go surfing for 30 minutes during lunch. It was a very different culture for sure. Surfing seemed to me to be the best low environment impact sport too, you ride something that exists for 40 seconds, and then its gone, magically replaced by another piece of natural art. Anyway, I generally find riders to be nicer and more helpful than when I started riding, which was before surfing for me.
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  8. jsalman93

    jsalman93 Been here awhile

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    Hey, I've got a longboard and I'm under 50 :deal. I always suggest wearing a leash though, mainly where I surf at is pretty rocky and I'm not up for dinging my board for no good reason. The only reason to not wear a leash would be if you surfing Mavericks or Teahupoo, where it could kill you, (RIP Mark Foo :cry).

    Plus, unlike a harley, you can still get some good turns on a longboard, albeit not as aggressive as shortboards. I don't get a longboard to carve up waves though, I'm just looking to cruise and enjoy the ride......shit, maybe we are like Harleys after all :lol3
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  9. stoke

    stoke ocean minded

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  10. stoke

    stoke ocean minded

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    Would for sure be a soft top funboard. Or even a boogie board:

    Flailing in the impact zone, struggling to get out, ridiculous rash guards...the equivalent of under/no experienced 150 mile a year recreational cruiser riders duckwalking up to the stoplight wearing pirate gear.

    Right?
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  11. Snapper

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    I started skiing at ~5 yo. and have been infected with the lateral-G / lean-to-turn thing ever since. Obviously it's taken me into motorcycle (approaching 4 decades), but also into skateboards, rollerblades, ice hockey, water skiing, road and mountain bikes etc. I still have an original Jake Burton snowboard, wood with metal fins, purchase from his garage shop in VT in the early 80s. Lived in Manhattan for a spell in the early 80s with the blades and bicycles as my primary transport... that was wicked fun - we used to try and race the bicycle messengers South (downhill) from Central Park during rush hour. It was like being an expert skiing on a very crowded beginner slope... cyclists and bladers weaving in and out of the giant pylon cars and terrorizing the pedestrians - if you hit anything, you could only blame yourself, all your risk were laid out in front of you - that required the most concentration ever. I still skateboard and rollerblade regularly, trying to exercise my dog, without exercising myself too much.

    Never surfed, but I think the land-based carve sports have some very important motorcycling "training/practice" aspects over their water-based counterparts like 1) watching for, and reacting to, surface contaminants, 2) practice/knowing how to fall (tumble, roll, slide) without injuring yourself, 3) outright speed, 4) harsher reality of physics (surface is obviously harder, and with infinitely more immoveable objects to hit)... ie, you need to really understand your trajectory if you go balls-out and everything goes pear-shaped on you.

    PS. Re Harley's... I wouldn't make too much fun of them. I only owned one (they're mechanically a POS) an XR1200, but I do have to admit it was seriously one of most fun carving bikes I've ever ridden (not fastest minded you... just most fun). The handling was slow (but true), so was the engine, but the gobs of low/mid range torque, without a ballistic high-siding horsepower, made it very uniquely qualified to carve the technical twisties with shit-eating grin. That was the only bike I ever owned that consistently ripped up the sides of its tires before the centers. CLICKY
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  12. fredN4

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    I have only windsurfed, so cant comment on pure surfing. But when I first started to learn to ride a bike it reminded me of skiing. You must keep your head up. If you look down in front of you, you wont make the turn.
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  13. Bo Radley

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    This is where vibing is necessary. Kinda like hockey and fighting...have to keep everyone honest. Dude ditching his board is just being lazy and not duck/turtle diving like he should. You're lucky you didn't get hurt worse. It's like a texting cager...

    I find the zen of riding and surfing to be extremely similar. The calm, the focus, then the rush...
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  14. stoke

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    Regarding the harley thing: obviously you can ride! I got nothing against harleys (well, unless I'm stuck lanesplitting behind one with open pipes), just some of the riders don't really know what they're doing. Similar to a soft top board flailing in the impact zone or dropping in on people going down the line. Epic tire shot by the way.

    Keeps everyone honest, I like that. Just a part of the culture like fighting in hockey. Never thought about it like that, but it is interesting that that's a part of the culture of hockey. I'm glad motorcyclists are the way they are though.

    I skied and skateboarded with a brief foray in the 90's on blades for crosstraining in the summer for skiing, and yeah, they all do translate well into motorcycling, probably somewhat better than surfing considering the surface hazards you have to watch out for as mentioned earlier. Although surfing does have some surface hazards, namely, other surfers paddling out when you're going down the line!
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  15. mminob

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    Well I have to buy a new surfboard all the time to keep it interesting and if you know what your looking for , sometimes . you find a Magic Board :evil My latest stick is 9'2" x 22" x 3" triple redwood stringer semi-gun , shaped on a CNC computer machine and can handle 2 foot mush all the way to double overhead :eek1 It has a performance rocker bottom so it goes rail to rail really fast and can carve sweet lines on big faces just like my latest new bike ... 2008 Suzuki GSX650F ...small roads or big roads , it just is so fun to s -turns and do cutbacks and roundhouse wraparounds , through all the cagers on my daily commute...Out of My Way KOOKS :lol3 This is my 25th surfboard and I'm on bike number 35 ...56 years old and if you ask me , being in the ocean and riding my dirt bikes , streetbikes ...has kept me happy and healthy and Stoked...ALOHA...
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  16. jsalman93

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    Sounds a bit too extensive to me. I've seen the bicycle surfboard racks that they sell for an arm and a leg at surf shops. I would imagine you would make one yourself and probably fit it to a board, not sure about the handling though. I know that just carrying my board affects makes me turn wide when I'm just walking :lol3

    +1 on the boogie board/harley comment. Just kidding around here, I like all bikes, I just don't really like all riders. Sort of like how I like all surfboards, I just don't like all surfers
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  17. Shooby

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    HEY! I saw that guy as well a few years ago. he was parked at Cardiff, just south of "the Kook". I admired his dedication

    Definite correlation(s) between these sports, good thread Stoke.
    BTW - I'll be signing up with Motoventures later this spring.
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  18. junglemototours

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    1st beer is free for you ADV FFers.....
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  19. booniebasher

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    In surfing you many times you are forced into a certain area cause thats where the good waves are, this area can be mastered by the locals and as in the case of hawaii these locals band together like gangs at times ...i had many run ins in hawaii like this in the 80,s. on the DIRTBIKE you can go to y:clap:clapour own area and not experiance the negative vibes i speak of. freedom to the max !!
    motorcycling has freedom written all over it !!!:freaky
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  20. zack05

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    I grew up surfing in Half Moon Bay. There was a very competitive surf scene there that started in the late eighties and grew exponentially as the locals began surfing spots that held bigger waves (not just Mav's). Surfing culture has a historic and often necessary pecking order. Good surf spots are limited, and enforcing the pecking order is where things get "testy." This is the not so fun part of surfing, and as I got older I often found that I was falling into that role. I moved to the mountains because snowboarding offered the same carving on edge feeling, without the hassles. After a few years of hundred day seasons, snowboarding started taking a backseat to riding my Dirtbike. I get the very same in the moment feelings with all of these sports. I also found that I like to scare the shit out of myself every once in a while. It can be quite head clearing!
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