Odd choice maybe, but Wee Strom or Tiger 955?

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Yenool, Jan 7, 2012.

  1. lvscrvs

    lvscrvs Been here awhile

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    hey jphish, if you don't mind me getting personal, what's your height and inseam.... i've looked at the palmer and madstad but haven't pulled the trigger yet... madstad didn't appeal because the overlap between the screen and base was so huge i thought it looked funky.... i'm very sensitive to wind noise and buffeting so getting good wind protection would be a huge plus for me...

    other than that, loving my '06 girlie...

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  2. BuffaloAl

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    This is a pretty entertaining thread. I started reading it because my wife has a 2005 Wee that she hardly ever rides. She had an unfortunate get off and really hasn't wanted to ride much since. I have a 2003 V (the yellow faster kind), and I love it. I also have a 2007 KLR 650 which I love.

    I have been thinking of farkling up my wife's wee for touring. I tour mostly alone and the only complaint I have on my Strom is the fuel economy. I generally get about 40 to 45 (US) when I am fully loaded and riding fast. I know that power is nice, but I love the thought of being able to tour farther on less fuel. For the Wee riders here, is the Wee competent under full load when touring? I think I probably have close to sixty pounds of gear plus my bulk (200+ pounds, although I hate to admit it). Will the Wee be able to haul my gear and my corpulent arse around?
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  3. sooner02r1

    sooner02r1 Wannabe

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    40-45!?!? I'm jealous, I get a solid 35 at 80mph unloaded!
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  4. ishmac

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    Been biking over 30yrs, loving it still.
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  5. jphish

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    Ivscrvs - Dont mind revealing my diminuitive stats: 5'8" - 30" inseam. The Palmer also provides "gap" at bottom of screen. I'm no areodynamic expert - but apparently necessary to equalize pressure & prevent the excessive turbulance we're trying to eliminate. All I know is...it works. I can iphone a pic if you wish - send me your email add. OR...go in Palmer site - he shows a silver girlie with brackets / medium screen. TTFN, j
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  6. hansi

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    Have a Madstad on my 03 Girlie and love it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hansi65/6933114561/
    I actually do think it has improved the looks of her.:D Big initial investment and had to alter/customize the baseplate to get the screen lower so I can look over the windshield while riding with all of my 5'10", but what a difference. Very little turbulence and noise now compared to the head-shaking and headaches from the 13"MRA that I was running before. Keeps a huge amount of wind and rain off your torso too.
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  7. lvscrvs

    lvscrvs Been here awhile

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    Hansi, Thanks for the pic. I had a Madstad on both of my stroms. Worked very well. Strom or Tiger, they all seem to need one of these arrangements to manage the airflow better. I also got some pics from jphish of the Palmer on his Tiger. The two systems are very similar, except the Madstad uses the base plate. Just for shits and giggles, and because I'm cheap and have some windshields lying around, I've made a couple of base plates, then some spacers out of ... I think it was delrin.... to accomplish the same result. Still a work in progress... fingers crossed... :D
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  8. hansi

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    You really got my attention with that. How about some pictures?
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  9. keystiger

    keystiger rat on a roll

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    I have had great results with the MRA Vario screen (the adjustable "wing" looks a bit odd but grows on you) about a 50% improvement over stock.
    Somethings to consider also
    #1. What type helmet do you have? I switched from a Sparx helmet to an AGV and the better aerodynamics of the helmet helped more than the screen.
    now about a 70% improvement over stock.
    then........
    #2. Adjust the mirrors!!! On my '05 the left mirror bracket is taller than the right one....meaning the right mirror sits almost 1 3/4" lower than the left. By simply loosening the stalk and moving it up, and loosening the mirror itself and moving out a bit I closed the gap to about 1/4" and the improvement in buffeting was HUGE compared to the new screen AND the helmet. And best of all that little trick didn't cost a dime! :D
    Brought overall wind protection up to about 98% better than stock.
    I now ride an '05 Tiger with virtually no buffeting, no neck fatigue and a HUGE smile on my face mile after mile.
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  10. Zapp22

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    i don't doubt about the mirrors etc... on the Weestrom, several things virtually eliminated buffeting other than on stormy days with lots of shifting crosswinds [which nothing will fix]:
    I dumped the oddball stock mirrors for bikemaster round 6" stems. smooth through the wind
    added madstad & Givi shield
    removed the splash dam under the ugly nosecone. not only does that change dramatically the airflow around the nose, but it gets rid of the "lifting" or "floating" effect lots of 'strommers complain about. I run my fork all the way up ... nose in the air at the top of the tube with no issues.

    i run almost year round with the shield in the lowest position, tilted back almost full allowance. I'm 6'2"

    that all said, the right windshield for the Wee has not been made to my knowledge. it needs something that has a bottom width close to the same width as those fairing 'wings' on the outside because those odd body features produce some turbulence - plus it would look so much better to have something actually matchup to the shape of that ugly frontend

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  11. lvscrvs

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    I use a Scorpion... I think its an EX900.. something like that... the modular one. Big helmet, but fiarly quiet and aero.

    I installed the Aprilia Tuono mirrors on my Tiger a while back. Pretty aero and look good too. Again, these are items I had on my previous Strom. Like em.

    I'll get some pics up later this week. Bike is in the shop with the shock removed and on a plane to Hagon in the UK for rebuild.

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  12. lvscrvs

    lvscrvs Been here awhile

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    Here you go.... still a work in progress... simple, but fairly effective... i'm a real glutton for low wind noise... tinitus sucks

    Base plate was a piece of plastic from Tap plastics... pretty easy to shape with a heat gun... along with delrin spacers and hardware I figure I'm into it for about $12 (had the screen already)

    Handguards probably add to buffeting, but they are nice to have in the cold months....

    IIRC, mirrors are Aprilia tuono. They fit perfectly. Smaller mirror, but good enough.

    I have a second base plate and a larger screen that I am playing with. Hope to get just a little better wind protection on the highway.

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  13. PeterW

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    Depends on speed. At about 80mph the 1000 and 650 economy is about the same. Weight doesn't have much effect on economy, but top boxes and side cases will.

    Power isn't a problem unless you expect to be able to pass quickly from an 80mph start. Up to 70-80mph performance is pretty comparable between the two bikes. The wee will be using more rpm and changing gear more though.

    Peter
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  14. sooner02r1

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    I'm jealous! my 1000 averages around 33mpg at 80-90mph interstate commuting everyday, and in 11,000 miles of owning it I've never seen more than 36mpg on a tank and that was babying it
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  15. Rusty Rocket

    Rusty Rocket Life behind "Bars"

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    old thread, but these are the 2 bikes I'm thinking about.

    Might get one or the other, used. $4000-5000 to spend.

    I've seen low mileage examples of both bikes in that range.
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    ddavidv Thrifty not cheap

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    I just went through this: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=815559
    Reader's Digest version: Neither bike is bad. It really came down to comfort and personal preference. I so liked the looks of the Tigger and the uniqueness of being a Triumph, but ultimately the Wee fit me better. You really need to ride both and then decide. I don't think one has any particular advantage over the other.
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  17. bobnoxious67

    bobnoxious67 Baby steps...

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    I was in this same boat in August, I ultimately focused in on the Tiger once I researched and found them reliable...the looks and power already had me looking hard at them:deal

    I ended up buying a stripped and neglected '01 Girlie for $3300...distance and availability helped make my choice. No regrets here...more character and "soul" (and power:deal) is what you get with the Girlie over the Strom. I love this thing:wink:

    Maybe I can offer you a test ride if I get out your way playing the RI/east CT TOR...
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  18. Rusty Rocket

    Rusty Rocket Life behind "Bars"

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    Thanks ddavidv:

    That was an interesting read. Thanks for this: http://cycle-ergo.com/

    I had seen it before, but lost the link. It really is helpful to see where things fall before even trying the bike.

    Funny about the Caponord. I just started considering it also, but they are scarce.

    I'm leaning towards the Tiger now, but I haven't even sat on one. I have a Wee that I can try anytime, but a 955 isn't in my list of bikes owned by people I know. (edit: looks like there might be one not too far. thanks bobnoxious) I need to Ebay my Penton before I can do anything.

    There's a Triumph/Aprillia/Royal Enfield dealer in the next town and a Suz/Kaw/Yam dealer in the same town also, so support is there for almost any choice I make.
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  19. birddogone

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    Hey Rusty, I first noticed 955 Tigers about a year ago. Had a glimpse of one at night, while in Cody WY this past summer, certainly never sat on one much less rode one. I drove 1400 miles round trip this past fall to buy an 06 and have never been happier with a motorcycle. Ridden BMWs for 30 years and probably will sell my K bike in the spring.
    Rod in Va.


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  20. bobnoxious67

    bobnoxious67 Baby steps...

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    Load that KTM up and come out here for a day of riding with me, and I'll get you on the Tiger:deal
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