Odd question, trials tyres on a DS bike?

Discussion in 'Trials' started by Sniper X, Aug 13, 2013.

  1. lamotovita

    lamotovita Ageing Adventurer

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    With 31,508 posts, I'm guessing he forgot he even posted here five minutes after he did it.
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  2. Gordy

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    :nod I like the Dunlop the best, I have a Pirelli on mine right now and it is not as flexy and for knar, I'm taking it off and going back to the Dunlop.

    With the tubliss system, it is a bitch to get a used tire to seal, so I have to mount new tires on the KTM. Oh well, they last forever.
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  3. DrKayak

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    I have torn up 4 X-11s on my 450 over the years. Knobs separate at the base. Just air down the MT-43 2psi more than the X-11 and it's close enough and lasts twice as long. Ultra Heavy Duty tubes - never a single flat. Last high country ride on sharp volcanic rock my partner had 2 front flats and we ran across 2 other parties working on flats. :rofl
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  4. Gordy

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    Tubliss is much better than ultra heavy tubes IMO. You can theoretically run them down to zero pressure, (like a trials bike) but obviously we don't do that because of the sidewalls. The system is also much lighter than an ultra tube.
    They also act like a nice "first suspension" and soften up the trail trash to give a more plush ride in the garbage.

    Lots of guys love em, and lots hate em. I am in the first camp for now.

    With all that being said about the tubliss system, I would run ultras in places like Baja where you need stone solid reliability and can always fix them on the trail.
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  5. DrKayak

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    I have buddies that run Tubliss. No matter how many times I have head about them I can't visualize how they work or how much harder it would be to mount the tires. Do they seal the spokes and bead turning the tire into a tubeless setup? Hole in the tire would equal a flat?

    UHDs are heavy and expensive.. I sheared the valve stem off one once with 2 rim locks.. :evil luck it never went flat till I got home.
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  6. Ccino

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    I am also considering running a trials tyre on my adventure bike, but for different reason than SniperX.

    Front tyre on Honda Dominator (650) is worn out, and I have Pirelli 43s front and back on my trials bike, but have found them to be not as compliant as others' I observe. So, opportunity to upgrade TBs rubber, and utilize stiff-walled trials tyre on adventure bike. I figure tread pattern will be almost as useful on this machine and as fair a trade-off as the road/off-road tyres marketed for these bikes. As they are DOT rated in the States I think they are going to be safe at road pressures and speeds.

    Any others experience of this would be welcomed.
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  7. DrKayak

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    I would be concerned about the weight of the Dominator on the MT43 rear specially at freeway speed. I have never hear of running one on a 650 class bike. It's a fairly narrow rear tire too. Guess if your rear wheel is not too wide for the tire to fit right and you keep the pressure right.... give it a try.

    I have read discussions on running a MT43 on a KTM950 and the consensus was -- bad idea.
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  8. Ccino

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    Front Tyre, I said front tyre.

    I know under braking, most weight is on the front, but they appear to be pretty stiff.
    I agree the rear would be too narrow, and anyway Dommie runs 130x90 by 17inch (trials tyre 18inch).
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  9. StuInFH

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    I've been running them for about three years now, have them on three of my bikes. Changing tires is super easy, zero chance of pinching tube. But like was said, may not get a seal if tire was used with a rimlock before (in the instructions). Yes, hole in the tire equals flat, plug in the hole equals away you go in a couple minutes without dismounting tire.

    Come on everybody, lets keep this going until we have all the info that other MT-43 threads have and/or until the OP comes back! :-)

    (I'm thinking he intentionally started this for fun. NO WAY can you have that much time/posts here and not be aware of all above.)
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  10. Sniper X

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    Nope, just forgot where the hell I posted this! :roflYou guys who had the terse answers can't rile me up. I am far above that. Thanks for the good comments from those of you that responded. Btw when I build the trials course on my newly aquired 80 acres of land in the East Mountains outside Albuquerque, SOME of you bastards are hereby UNinvited! :rofl
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  11. StuInFH

    StuInFH Been here awhile

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    Yeah, you're welcome for the "reminder." Looking at your post count, I would say an MT-43 will last you a long time. http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=22296954&posted=1#post22296954
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    I might have to try the MT43. I do remember back when all "Enduro" bikes came with trials tyres, they worked far better on road them knobbies, and almost as well off road.
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  13. StuInFH

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    They will again. Check out the tires on KTM's 2014 Freeride 250R, very short knobby/TT-like tires.

    Downside for you to consider is rim damage at pressures where the MT-43 needs to be to work most effectively off road (due to its stiff DOT-rated sidewall).

    This thread speaks to TT vs. knobby and how the pressure is key. OP in thread concluded that TuBliss system and knobby is maybe better way to go overall. I agree when I run TuBliss and M5B knobby and hit snow and deep mud, but the MT-43 will outlast knobby. Both are a bit squirrely on the street, but who cares when you are only connecting trails anyway (DS). http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=831867
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  14. eyedragaknee

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    I run a Dunlop on the back of my KTM 250. Best upgrade the bike ever had. Been in deep sand , slick mud, and it climbs rocks like a goat. I run ultra hd tubes and about 12psi vs the 4 psi in the GG 250.

    It has been on the bike about a year. No issues

    Just my 2 cents
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