OEM BMW engine guard question

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by richenry, Jul 14, 2009.

  1. richenry

    richenry Adventurer

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    I recently purchased a set of OEM BMW engine guards for my 2000 R1150GS and I'm getting conflicting info about maintenance with them installed.

    A buddy of mine swears that an oil change can be performed with them installed. But I did a search and some on this site think they need to be removed to perform an oil change. If this is true then WTF were the BMW engineers thinking?

    Thanks.
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  2. rtortore

    rtortore '00 R1150GS

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    Well, an oil change CAN be done with them installed (at least my 2000 1150GS has a access hole in the bashplate for the oil drain). However I need to remove them to remove the bottom bashplate to access the oil filter. This requires me removing the engine guard bars, and thus remove the gas tank! :cry

    I hope someone out there has more information that would allow me to get around this horrid setup?! But I doubt it, so I'll continue removing the tank.

    Cheers

    Richard
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  3. JRP

    JRP Old guy

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    The bars for the Adventure model have the uppers and lowers as separate pieces and come apart with set screws. You just need to remove the skid plate and 4 set screws. If you have a skid plate those are the ones you should have ordered.
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  4. rtortore

    rtortore '00 R1150GS

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    I beleive the OP doesn't have the adventure model, just the stock GS - I'm in the same boat :pep lousy Bavarian setup .. argh ... :evil
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  5. JRP

    JRP Old guy

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    I'm sure that's true. There is no skid plate in the 1150 GS parts list, only the optional crash bars. The oil and filter can certainly be changed with that set up. If a skid plate is added then the Adventure bars should be used. I'm sure you could have a sleeve fabricated and cut the bars to act about the same way as the Adventure set. Touratech also makes the two piece bars which are the ones I have.
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  6. richenry

    richenry Adventurer

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    Actually my 2000 GS does have a skid plate and looking at photos of my crash bars installed they will certainly get in the way of changing the oil. I may drill a hole in the skid plate to access the drain plug and maybe even a larger hole for the filter.

    Who knows?

    On the other hand, anybody want to buy a used set of OEM engine guards?
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  7. AE-22

    AE-22 Been here awhile

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    My advice would be to return or sell them. Get a set of SW-Motech bars. They have a small cross-piece underneath that has to be removed in order to get the skid plate and what not - it's pretty simple.

    [​IMG]
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  8. rtortore

    rtortore '00 R1150GS

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    Same here - factory skid plate and crash bars.

    R
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  9. Steptoe

    Steptoe steptoe

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    Only the early BMW standard GS crash bars were one piece -the later type have the same set up as ADV bars and you can detach the lowers.
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  10. rtortore

    rtortore '00 R1150GS

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    So, what does everyone else do?? REmove the tank each and every oil filter change?

    Richard
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  11. richenry

    richenry Adventurer

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    That's a ridiculous amount of work for a 20 minute oil change. I am seriously thinking about machining 2 holes in the skid plate. One for the filter and one for the drain plug. Either that or selling them.
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  12. rtortore

    rtortore '00 R1150GS

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    Anyone else have any solutions to this little problem?
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  13. lawnmowwer

    lawnmowwer Watch this!

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    Holy crap dude!!!:huh Glade I hit this thread I was looking at crash bars not 5 min. ago. I will have to take notes on this one.:deal :mully

    Any more suggestions one a good set for an 08 1200 GS.:ear

    I will sit back and watch to see what happens around this one.:hide
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  14. Kev1

    Kev1 Live Life

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    Two words. Hepco and Becker:nod
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  15. rtortore

    rtortore '00 R1150GS

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    Bump?

    I am thinking of drilling out a whole - then bolting a plate over it to cover. I know there won't be that much strength, and the bolts will likely seize, but I cannot keep removing the tank for an oil change!!

    R
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  16. Ken Fritz

    Ken Fritz Long timer

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    No problem with Hepco & Becker bars - remove the stock bash plates and do the oil and filter change, then replace the plates. Takes longer for the oil to drain out than to R&R the plates. Don't forget to put in fresh oil. :rofl
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  17. rtortore

    rtortore '00 R1150GS

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    Fair enough - but I was hoping someone had an easy solution for stock BMW bars ...
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  18. GSALite

    GSALite Been here awhile

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    Actually you are in better shape as the 1200GS has a slightly different setup. With my Touratech bars on I can change oil and filter without removing the bars. Still have to remove stock bash plate but it is only four bolts. Well, two 13mm bolts, one 10mm bolt and a 10mm nut but who is counting. :huh
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  19. M38A1

    M38A1 Type-A Introvert

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    Bump.... I just ran into this problem and also am looking or solutions....

    Here's the stock BMW bars on the top side. The very top bolt sits on the frame backbone behind the gas tank.
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    And here's the bottom attachment points. The whole system is ridged which sucks.
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    If you look close at the top left of the lower skidplate pic, I think you can see the scratch/scuff marks from the previous owner weaseling it in/out. I'm considering getting them out and having a machine shop drill out clearance holes for the filter and drain plug. Argh. STUPID design IMO.

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  20. Steptoe

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    Yes, very stupid. And why they changed the design in 2001 :D
    On the post 2001 bars you can unbolt the lower section tubes. :lol3
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