OEM Lowering Foot Pegs?

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  1. x32792

    x32792 Retired Cracker American

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    Have a set of golden anodized BMW foot pegs on the way for my '16 GS - The ones with the spring loaded rubber pads. Any issues in the 1" lower, ALL the way down position during regular highway usage? Also have a T60 at the ready to adjust the shift lever if needed.
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    Yep. In the all the way down position they foul the sidestand. You'll need to bend the little knob out of the way. Also, you NEED to adjust the shifter, and would be better off buying aftermarket, as there's a limit to how much OEM can be adjusted. The brake pedal isn't adjustable, and you might want to replace that with aftermarket too.
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    ^^Thank you. I'll be on the lookout for conflict with sidestand. Was aware the brake peddle can not be adjusted, but mine seems a bit low (to me), so it should be OK. I know the Father Land is not listening, but they should make the bars, pegs and levers adjustable. Seems pretty self-serving to create and encourage more purchases. Damn shame to spend this kinda money on a bike only to find you gotta spend more to tweet the ergos. Rant complete, lets us flush, work with what we have and move forward.
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    The sidestand may not be an issue. I can feel the nub on the bottom of my boot when I shift, but not enough to bother with bending it. It's not a big deal to bend it though (use a piece of pipe over it to get leverage).

    You may not need to adjust the shifter much at all. Depends on what your preference is. If you are ok with having the top of the shifter level with the top of the peg, you will be fine. If you want it much lower than that, then you start running into an interference issue with the sidestand when you try to deploy it.

    Start with the pegs and ride it for a bit before you go off and spend more money on different levers.

    Also, you don't adjust the shifter with the large torx. You use the threaded linkage. Much finer adjustment.
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    x32792 Retired Cracker American

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    ^^Thank you. Haven't looked too closely, but just assumed you just move the shifter over one spine notch - The one locked with 60T.

    EDIT: You are correct. Just crawled around on my hands and knees with a flash light...In the dark and found the fine threaded shifter adjustment with lock nut.
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    I'm not aware of any motorcycle that has adjustable bars, pegs, shifter and levers more than the GS has. It adds cost and weight, and most never would adjust them past what they are already adjustable.
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    x32792 Retired Cracker American

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    ^^I disagree. I have a stiff (old) back, long waist and enjoy my 2" Rox risers. A brake lever which can't be raised or lowered is silly - Even my cheap DR650 has that. Shifter adjustment is not a biggie unless you have big feet. I'd trade you my keyless gee-whiz feature in a snap for more adjustable ergos.
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    Your DR650 doesn't have ABS or traction control. Adjusting the foot brake is not as simple as turning a bolt.
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    x32792 Retired Cracker American

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    ^^ABS on my DR650 is rubber hoses w/o steel casings - You hammer down real hard, the fluid expands the hoses and the brakes don't grab. My DR cost me $5,500 out door, new, in 2014. I've put 44,500 hamburger fattened miles on it and still have it on a battery tender in the garage. I haven't ridden it as much lately since I got the Beemer Pilot tattoo, but I do take it out once in a while so it doesn't pout. To the larger point, guess some jackass like me will always find some problems with any bike.
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    Without being insulting, that was my larger point. No manufacturer can please every customer. In general, BMW riders are OK with adding a few bucks to personalize their bike for the best fit possible. Humans come in an incredible variety of sizes and shapes, and preferences. It is amazing how many fit the bike as is, and never change anything, yet are still perfectly happy with the bike.

    For me, I have Rox bar risers, a Sargent Low Seat, aftermarket foot pegs and switched to a GSAw windscreen. I also have added lights, luggage, heated gear plugs and a few other mods. It is all part of the process of making a tall bike fit a 5' 7" 250 pound rider with a 28" inseam. A 150 pound 6' 2" rider with a 34" inseam would likely find many of my mods a terrible fit. You can't please everyone.
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    ^^I'm 6'1", 195 pounds and have a regular Sargent saddle set L front and back so I can get my feet on the ground, enlarged kickstand foot for Florida sand and soft parking lots, enlarged brake peddle top, 2" Rox, the windshield it came with and very soon OEM lowering peg to ease my knees. Yes, there's a great deal of variance in riders which takes us back to the desirability of ergo adjustability.
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    I have the BMW lower pegs set all the way low and they didn't interfere with the side-stand, you also adjust the shift lever with an 8mm and 10mm wrench to adjust the linkage no need for a T60 to remove the lever as Hammerdown77 pointed out.
    I have recently installed a set of Gilles Tooling shift and brake levers that are fully adjustable and marvelous, these work much better and match the BMW lowered pegs since Gilles manufactures them for BMW as well.
    The Gilles shift/brake levers employ sealed bearings for smooth and light operation, the OEM levers use bushings that BMW has recently instructed the grease be removed since it draws dirt that scares the bushing surface.
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    ^^Just looked those puppies up online - They are lovely. EDIT: Where did you buy them?
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    https://calsport.co.uk/ or some other calsport?
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    Updated my post
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    I would agree with Jim that other than the brake lever (and being able to use different handlebars), the GS is one of the most "adjustable" bikes on the market. Seats, bar risers, lowered/raised pegs, longer levers, brake levers with raised platforms, taller/wider/shorter screens, fairings, and so forth.

    I was surprised, like the OP, that the brake lever was not really adjustable on this bike from the factory. Every other bike I've seen allows the user to raise or lower the height of the brake pedal with simple tools. Every Japanese bike has this, as do the Triumphs I have see, and KTMs.

    The brake pedal height can be lowered a bit from its stock position but it can't be raised. Raising it is limited by hard contact with the frame, and continuing to turn the threaded plunger once this contact is reached just reduces your blow-by in the master cylinder, which will result in your brakes being locked on and then bursting into flames (well that last part was an exagerration...somewhat).

    Lowering is only limited by the amount of thread between the top of the clevis on the brake arm, and the shoulder of the threaded rod on the master cylinder. It's not much, but I was actually able to lower it a decent amount for use with the 1" lower pegs.
    (those are Suburban Machinery pegs in the picture, I have some of the BMW adjustable Enduro pegs now)

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    Having said all of that though, and based on my going through this process of adjusting things with lower pegs, my advice would be to leave the brake pedal in its current position and learn to use it there with the lowered pegs. Lowering it below level with the top of the peg will make it difficult to reach when standing. Level or slightly above the top of the peg is good for hitting while standing, and is still easily usable while seated.
    I actually raised the lever back up from its position in the picture and adjusted my technique slightly to use it while seated. I have long legs and feet and tend to be a bit more toes-pointed-down while riding in the saddle, so it required me to lift my foot slightly to get on the rear brake. No big deal once I got used to it, now it's second nature.
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    Got'em. Installation was without drama. Just a dab of Loctite Blue here and there. Mine are set all the way LOW and my old knees are grateful. No conflicts with kickstand, center stand, shifter or brakes. The height of the unadjustable brake peddle is fine - It was too low (for me) with stock pegs. I did lower the shifter approximately 1/2" with fine adjustments on linkage and everything works just fine. Pricey, but glad I did it.
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    Glad to hear they work for you.

    On a side note, do you think you could post a pic of how you oriented the right side footpeg's spring? I'm pretty sure I have mine right, but I could not find a conclusive photo/diagram and wasn't installing on a GSA that had those same style springs on the stock pegs.
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    x32792 Retired Cracker American

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    ^^The OEM lowering pegs on the GS require special springs. The required springs are the same as the stock springs on the GSA pegs. The mounting bracket on the RIGHT has a small receiver hole for the long end of the spring. Oddly, the mounting bracket on the LEFT does not. Here's a youtube which is both informative and helpful:
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