Off-road comparision between 1190R, GS1200 Adv, AT and Super Tenere

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by duartesss, May 28, 2017.

  1. ADV67

    ADV67 Alsace rider

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    I had a S10 for 2 years and a GSA1200 for 3 years before that.
    My 1190R is definately better offroad than the S10!!! Less weight and the 21" wheel make it handle better offroad and easier to ride.
    I guess the spanish riders didn't appreciate the seat hight of the 1190R, the S10 is lower but when you measure 6.3" the R is just fine.
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  2. Pcfly

    Pcfly Dude?! Seriously??

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    WOW........so glad we got to the bottom of this.

    Someone turn off the lights and shut down ADVrider.:jack
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  3. duartesss

    duartesss Adventurer

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    I forget to say for these Spanish guys was a complete surprise the result...

    But all of them agreed with it... And each one was send by a different brand...
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  4. Ham

    Ham Been here awhile

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    1190 yes
    AT YES
    tenere....a nice bike. Best off road? No.
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  5. Pcfly

    Pcfly Dude?! Seriously??

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    Great! Spain's done, now we just have to wait for the U.K., Portugal, Africa, India, Costa Rica, Russia, and every other world moto publishing circular from other parts. Yup, they'll all be surprised and everyone will agree across the board........almost done! :fpalm
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  6. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    They said it and all agreed, so therefore, it's true. The Tenere is the bestest offroad. Fuck, probably the best on road too, especially 2up.

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  7. MazztheSpazz

    MazztheSpazz Adventurer

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    I guess my wife is right. I don't need a new bike!:imaposer
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  8. snakebitten

    snakebitten Small Town Hick

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    Like I said, those Spaniards are picking at almost healed scabs. Folks are not happy when that Big Yammie don't stay in its place. ;)

    (yea, I'm enjoying it a little. But again, I'd like to have all 4 pigs in the barn. I love Big ADV machines)
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  9. ViperJustin

    ViperJustin Retired HH60G Gunner

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    As said before, the GS looks (and is) way out of place here. It's the (current) Range Rover of the group when the others are the Raptor, Wrangler, and Land Cruiser.

    I'm still surprised by the results, though.
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  10. mcmann

    mcmann Motorcycle ADV enthusiast

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    It is nice to have a variety . . . Everyone will have their own opinion.

    All nice bikes . . . Pick the bike that suits you . . .
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  11. Wreckchecker

    Wreckchecker Ungeneer to broked stuff.

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    This!
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  12. Sitheach86

    Sitheach86 Long timer

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    I always see the AT and 1190R (1090R now) as the off-road champs. Most magazines and YouTube reviews I've seen say the AT is the adv bike to get for off-road and everywhere on forums I get the feeling the KTM is the best to get for offroad.

    I currently own an adventurized wr250r and have been considering one of these two bikes new, selling the wr250r, and buying a used 250-300 dirt bike.
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  13. GrahamD

    GrahamD Long timer

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    I think maybe, just a hunch, you may be in for a bit of an adjustment on any of them.

    As far as the review goes, I have heard it mention a few times that the BOTH the GS's tend to bite you if you get it wrong and requires a bit more concentration than KTM's or the Super Ten. I would agree that the S10 was surprisingly easy (that doesn't mean DAKAR fast) to use off road, within its limits. It's limits are not as high as say a 990 KTM, but it is easy. Surprised me the first time I was out on one. Everyone I know that owns a BMW has replaced the suspension, I would have a guess that the Honda would benefit from that as well in short time and the rear of the S10 for sure. As far as the KTM goes, well he shocks seem to be the longest lasting component on the bike.
    If you are the type where every ride is a race then the the Super Ten is going to come second on road or off road. You will just have to bring a car, driver and trailer and swap bikes so you can keep "winning" on each surface though.

    But in the end most sales are done on a combo of specs, magazine wins, features, poser value and a ride around the block on tarmac.
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  14. Wreckchecker

    Wreckchecker Ungeneer to broked stuff.

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    Depends how much you are going to be off road and how hard you'll be riding. I've got a 2010 KTM 690r and a 2014 Tenere. I'm seriously thinking about selling the 690r because there is so much overlap and the Tenere is just so much better when the ride doesn't need that extra couple of inches of ground clearance. Yes, the KTM and the WR250R before it are better on tight single tracks in the woods, but if the trail is wide enough for a quad/ATV then the big girl does just fine. I and friends have put the two bikes up the same loose rocky slopes, the same muddy tracks, the same . . .

    This will be the same for your AT or 1190R, or pretty much any of the BMW GS models IF you're willing to ride appropriate to where you are. As much as we rag on this bike or that one, the hardware today is just that good. The limit I've repeatedly seen is that people just try to ride the mid-size and big bikes off road the same way they ride them on the street and then say that the big bikes can't go off road. They're afraid of the bike falling over and needing to pick it up. Duhhh

    Just ride.
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  15. duartesss

    duartesss Adventurer

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    Is from 2014...but perhaps you do not know it...

    in Brazil some journalists accepted the challenge to ride a Super Tenere in the 500 miles of Interlagos against sport bikes and, in the end, they finished in 6th place...:

    And after that the same guy accepted the challenge to use a Super Tenere in trails against light dirty bikes:

    Here the preparation:

    Here the competition:
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  16. Wreckchecker

    Wreckchecker Ungeneer to broked stuff.

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    Wow! Just wish I could understand a single word.
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