oil filter on 2012 F800GS

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  1. F800ekelley

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    Hey all

    I have seen and read a few different articles i am sure this has been addressed before but cant get a firm answer.
    So..... I ALWAYS use the oilfilter from the dealer however this time it did not have the bmw logo on it and looked alittle different i went on a quick ride no issues at all. My question is i have heard of and seen guys using car filters on their bikes, how much different is it? There are alot that fit my bike and are few dollars cheaper, would it hurt the bike to use a quality car oil filter? Can some one explain the diff? Is it pressure?

    Also not to start an oil thread but is it true u are to use conv oil first 8000 miles or can i switch to syn?
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  2. Steveman

    Steveman Been here awhile

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    You can use any oilfilter of any brand as long as it is designed for your F8. It may be a good idea to buy known brands instead of no name parts.

    You can change to fully synthetic oil any time after running in phase. Lots of old myths you should not believe as they refer to engines built between 1950 and early 80ies

    Cheers Steve

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  3. F800ekelley

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    Thanks steve i will switch to synth next change. As far as filter goes do u see using car filters as an issue or stick with the oem ones?
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    Steveman Been here awhile

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    to be honest I'd stick with the OEM one, except someone could confirm that car filters have the same characteristics, meaning they will filter with same quality (size of particles and debris) and the pressure relief valve works with same pressure. The price plays no role for me. I dont change hundred filters a year so 15, 20 or 28 bucks is not really important...

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  5. mapuda

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    Check out Calsci. He makes windscreens but has a good discussion of filters in general here and bike specific cross reference here. I have used Mann filters from Beemer Boneyard with good effect. I have used Bosch 3330 car filters as well.

    For more info on lubricants you can go to BITOG
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  6. F800ekelley

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    Thanks i will check these out the reason i ask is cause the break in i want to swap my conv oil and filter every 1000 miles is this too much. I have heard alot that break in is important and other guys say ride it like u stole it . I use the bike on alot of dirt so i change oil often ill check out the other ones thank u
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  8. Grits&Gravy

    Grits&Gravy Been here awhile

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    I like that!!!! Can put a socket on it and not worry about crushing it and dealing with a filter wrench. I used K&N on my cars for that exact reason. Didn't realize they made them for the F800 too.
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  9. 3Rrr

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    Yes, I think it's a 17mm socket. They are less than $9 on Amazon right now. I've been using them for the last 4 changes. Nice not to have to mess with an oil wrench.

    I noticed a bad review from one of the previous links but my experience has only been favorable.

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  10. RobbieO

    RobbieO Muskokatard

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    Now here's another question.......Can I remove the oil filter without having to remove most aftermarket Bashplates?

    Which ones?
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    I would say that the bash plates worth having you will need to remove. Most - if not all come off in a matter minutes.

    I take it as a good time to check out the condition of the plate and bolts. The circle of GS'rs that I ride with use the Black Dog Cycle plate. It and Mod would be my recommended form the coverage and build quality and material. That said, I am currently running the Ricochet plate which has held up well. It doesn't have the same coverage as the two mentioned above but when I was on a tight budget it fit the bill. Looking at some the more adventurous rides I have planed in the future I will be going to a MOD or BDC plate.

    Important thing to note is compatibility with crash bars.

    For some testimonials of the BDC plate check out GS Riders of Go AZ facebook page.



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  12. RobbieO

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    I'm leaning towards the MOD plate. Great price, made in Canada and compatible with the ALTrider crashbars.
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  13. Tor

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    My Adventure Spec bash plate I have to remove for oil change. I suspect you will on most other plates too.

    So we covered the filter part, here is the oil part (this is what I feed the F8GS and my wife's F650GS):

    Summer:

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    Winter:

    [​IMG](non-energy conserving)

    No I am not starting a oil discussion, but simply stating what I use, with superb result. I also have an 2005 ST1300 / 100K, and the engine is silky smooth. No issues. (15w50)
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  15. F800ekelley

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    Where do i buy this i cant find it in AZ. Is it online only. Also i am a bit of an oil snob i dont like going cheap on it i have seen a quart of this before at a bike shop in CA forr 15 that means my oil change would be 50for just oil is it really worth it, and how long will this oil last?
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  16. BELSTAFF

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    As per BMW manual ,BMW recommends Castrol,-----Cycle Gear has Castrol in Gallons & ON sale also has K&N filters------
    Problem solved !!--- Plus Castrol is sold in ever bike shop world wide---Another problem solved

    I changed from break in oil to Castrol Simi Syth 15w50 ( for AZ temps) ----Works just fine
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  17. F800ekelley

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    Thanks belstaff, i will check it out do u run 15w50 year round or just summer?
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    Yes, year around. Castrol has been the oil of choice for 40 odd years or so, used to run pure bean oil in my 1200cc SCCA C/Sedan MINI Cooper ---that would be the original Minnie --Used the same bean oil in a 2/smoker CZ & all my Penton/KTM ,
    Still love that Smell!!!:lol3
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  19. Motoriley

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    You could maybe get the filter off without removing the bash plate but oil always dribbles everywhere and there would be no way to mop it up. MOD plate works great and comes off in seconds. OK maybe 2 minutes. Actually I bet with a powered driver I could get it off in less than a minute!
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