OK, I tanked some more Kool-Aid

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by rudolf35, Oct 2, 2011.

  1. rudolf35

    rudolf35 Warped & Twisted Mind

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    I was week, it was alluring and I fell for it.

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    2012 Nightrod

    After putting 500 miles on it, ready for the first oil change (by me), I LIKE it. At first I thought the forward controls will be something that I can not live with, but I was wrong. I rode out a full tank without any discomfort or gripes.
    As to the millage, with a new motor, I got three different milages from full to the brim to fuel light on: 142 miles, 139 miles and 119 miles. Now, I do not have the gallons loaded, so this is not a good indicator of millage but as of now the 'magic' millage from full to idiot light on seems to be 130 miles average. Since my XR's magic number is 140 this is not so bad of a range - with more fuel mind you. Oh well, I did not get the bike because of fuel economy; besides that, until it get's over 2k I will not even think about getting a true average. Right now I will just treat it like a new girlfriend, get the most I can get away with.

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  2. Glenngineer

    Glenngineer Scooty Puff Sr.

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    Looks gorgeous. I like that for 2012, HD quietly stepped up the rideability.
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  3. packnru

    packnru Adventurer

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    That's real nice. I need one.
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  4. bobw

    bobw Harden the phuck up

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    Congrats! She looks sexy. I read HD made some ergo changes to them, what exactly were the modifications?
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  5. Superbikemike

    Superbikemike Been here awhile

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    check cycle ergo's here.... http://cycle-ergo.com/
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  6. bobw

    bobw Harden the phuck up

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    Thanks for the link, but it doesn't cover the 12 MY yet. In the past there have been mid and forward controls, different platform on the Street Rod, etc. I was curious as to what components were used to make the changes. It is something I can research n their site, I was more curious to discuss them with a real owner/rider.

    Cheers
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  7. rudolf35

    rudolf35 Warped & Twisted Mind

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    What HD did with the 2012 was to move the forward controls back about 1.25" and made the bar risers angle back also around a 1" to 1.5". This let's the rider sit comfortable without the stretch needed on the pre 2012 models.

    As I noted, I rode out several full tanks in one sitting without any complaints; mind you I am 6'3".
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  8. 15dollar

    15dollar Adventurer

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    Beautiful bike and I hate you! I loved the VRod but the forward controls were always a bit too forward, I had no idea they moved them back. Now it's back on the shopping list.
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  9. rudolf35

    rudolf35 Warped & Twisted Mind

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    I was in the same boat. Before 2012 the V-Rod's where a non-issue; to much stretch and the Roadrod had the mid-pegs to high for my frame. Now, well needless to say it works; DARN! LOL!!! A slug of change later I love it. I have a strange feeling that I will be putting down a lot of miles that would have gone to my 1150GS.

    As of right now, the bike is bone stock. I am waiting for the windshield and shop manual. Once all that is in, the bike will be tested on my 500 mile test run; find out what I need to hammer in place to make it mine. I know that it will get some Powerlet outlets (found the switched connectors already, will share the info if requested), some bags (the HD sport bags look nice and are around $200 cheaper at Zanotti Motor, good reputation and is a web order setup), set of Avon Airgrips and that should do it.

    I thought of this post as a "bragging" post but from the looks of it, it might change into a setup posting; hope so.

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  10. bobw

    bobw Harden the phuck up

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    Thanks for the information. I always liked the concept of the Rods and hoped they would continue developing at least one of the models into a potential "comfortable sport/tourer". Instead they focused on the more extreme ergonomics that resulted in a "clam shell" posture for me, but this may be a compromise that is doable. Please post your findings as you set her up and get a few more miles on her.

    TIA and Safe travels!

    Cheers
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  11. merc16

    merc16 Been here awhile

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    Rudolf35, just wondering if you could comment/describe how the Vrod is in the corners. I looked at it in the showroom, but seems lacking in ground clearance. They are the best looking Vrod so far.
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  12. ka5ysy

    ka5ysy Doug

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    Funny thing about the V-Rod is that the most of the HOG crowd shuns that bike because it's "not a Harley".

    I guess that comes from the fact it has a radiator and you don't have to look like a pirate to ride one :lol3

    The forward controls and lack of lean angle still do nothing for me though. One day Willie G will figure that out and they will have a really nice bike.
    The V-Rod Muscle really looks nice, but the seat is the most God-awful thing they have put on a bike in a long time.
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  13. rudolf35

    rudolf35 Warped & Twisted Mind

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    Thus far I did not have a chance to take the V-Rod on a extended twisty runs. On the county road sweepers it does fine. I do notice the wide tire though. It has to be "muscled" into corners v.s. simply sweeping into corners. I was/am looking into getting a earlier V-Rod rim with 180 capabilities.

    I love the motor though. As things stand now, the V-Rod will be my long range tour bike with my GS.
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  14. rudolf35

    rudolf35 Warped & Twisted Mind

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    I am double WTF'ed! Between the V-Rod and the XR1200 the pirate crew has no clue. Not a pice of chrome in sight and non to be had.

    What is even funnier, is the fact that the Sport Bike crew, are the only ones who acknowledge the two ani-Harleys; but who cares? I like them and that is what counts!
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  15. Uglyprimate

    Uglyprimate UglyPirate

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    Hell, most of ADV isn't even pro-Harley, regardless of the model.

    Any bike is a great bike as long as it brings you smiles.

    I'd love to see what that V-Rod motor would do in an XR1200 frame.
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  16. rico2072

    rico2072 Been here awhile

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    Never been a HD guy what so ever, but that one actually looks pretty good.
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  17. snowhawk jockey

    snowhawk jockey Slack Jaw Gaper

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    I like the Night Rod. Mom has always wanted a Vrod but the chassis have never suited her Ironbutt riding style.
    The styling of the Night Rod is spot on with flat black and no chrome to clean, but the forward controls are a deal breaker for her.


    +100 Thats a Harley I would dream of owning... Porsche powered street tracker!:bow
    It would easily line up next to my 950SM as a "big brother" with shiny paint, instead of plastic fantastic.

    Harley you listening?!?! You will call it the X-Rod and all the streettracker/cafe/naked/bobber boys would love to own one, too.
    It will keep the XR bike in the HD line-up for the future with a emission friendly motor.
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  18. rudolf35

    rudolf35 Warped & Twisted Mind

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    The scuttlebutt is that the V-R motor was intended for Buell. He took a look at it and stated that it was to heavy (it is a bit of a slug) and went the Rotax way. More scuttlebutt has it that the V-R was built/designed around the motor - we have this Porsche lump, now let us put a motorcycle around it - thus the length due to rake, trail and a place to put gas.

    If the Porsche lump would be put in a XR you would have a V-Rod.

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  19. rudolf35

    rudolf35 Warped & Twisted Mind

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    OK, 578 miles on the Nightrod, it is time for a oil change. I know the book states 1k to the first change but I start at 500 miles and then at 3k intervals - been doing that for a long, long time and that is that.

    Fist note, the Nightrod is to low for my Wally World oil pan. Since I am a true KLR owner at heart (never owned one but I am still a cheap bastard who does not spend at stealers and MAKES things work). Solution, two 2x4' under the Jiffy (WTF is so "Jiffy" I still do not know) stand and the old pan is still in business.

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    2, 2x4 Jiffy Stand accessories

    Now checking the oil on the side stand is not the way with the V-Rod; it is checked with a temped up motor in the upright position. Not good on the road or in the shop. So, first modification. Was at the stealership to get my "thrown in" shop manual (beats the heck out of the sleazy "make a walking advertising for us" T-shirt) and had a shop guy check my oil while I was holding it upright. He pronounced a "right on the mark" verdict and I had him "hold that thought" while I placed the bike on the side stand. Placed the dipstick back in the motor, pulled it out and made a mark for a "full" on the side stand reference.

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    Side stand full mark

    This is the drain plug with "fuzz" after 587 miles. Not bad, I am sure that there is more in the filter but since I am not as anal-retentive, as some of my GS riding buddies are, I did not dissect the oil filter. Oh, FYI the motor is metric so keep a set of metric and standard tools on hand!

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    Sump drain plug with 578 miles of fuzz

    Once the oil was out, gave it some time to let it all drain, it was time to remove the filter. In the shop manual it recommends to remove the lower radiator bracket to make the filter removal easier - good point and it helped a lot.

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    Lower radiator bracket

    Just to show how snug things are in the front, this is the left front. The oil filter is under the motor mount.

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    Left front of motor

    Once the lower radiator bracket was out, dropping the filter was the same as any current H-D. The only difference is that the filter drops out the bottom and can not be pulled out the side; no issues there.

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    Removing filter

    Yes, the oil drain pan was moved, once the motor drain plug was reinstalled, and a "custom" bakery shop device used in it's stead. Once the filter was replaced and the lower radiator mount installed it was time to oil up the motor. Yes I do measure the oil as I put it in. The 5 quart jug of oil had a wee bit more in it than advertised; 475cc's more to be exact. Now more oil in the jug is a good thing, but more to "much more" oil in a motor is not a good thing.

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    475cc's more than labeled

    FYI, yes I use 20-50 Castrol in ALL bikes so do not bother with a semi-oil thread. The black MSR bottle is my on the road oil reserve I move from bike to bike while traveling (not a bad investment 10 years ago).

    As far as tools needed for a oil change, minimal. A 17mm socket (motor drain plug), ratchet, 1/2" spanner (lower radiator bracket), 17mm spanner (to get a good feel while snugging up motor drain plug; yeah I carry a torque wrench on the road, not, finally a filter spanner from Auto Zone.

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    Oil change tool kit

    All in all, a non event. As I wrench/ride the Nightrod I will keep this posting current.
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  20. mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Long timer

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    nice bike, and keep the updates coming. I saw a V-Rod on the interstate around... some major city... when I was on a road trip a few years ago. It was decked out for touring with hard bags and a windshield. I gave the guy a thumbs up, and he showed me the fast way out of the city.

    I've always liked the looks of the Night Rod, but I hesitate at the feet forward riding position. I am 5'9", maybe 5'10" if she's real pretty...
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