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Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by Drif10, Sep 5, 2004.
This one of mine is 35 years old. On one hand, I thought of it as a vintage bike long before it even turned 25 years old, since the basic cast iron engine dates from 1957. On the other hand, Sportsters still look a lot like this, so unless you are a student of engines, it appears to be a fairly new motorcycle. Whenever I put it in a lineup at one of our vintage club events, it hardly gets a second look - partially because people don't know what they're looking at, and partially because of anti-Harley bias in many vintage circles.
You are 100% right about people passing H-Ds by. They are tough to find in stock condition, probably more so than any other marque. The '82-'03 Sportster really suffers like you said as they all basically look the same. It's even worse for some guy who who has doted on his '86 Sportster to keep it mint all these years and it gets no love. At least the IH is a Super Cool Hemi headed Beast from times past.
The '82-'03 Sportster really suffers like you said as they all basically look the same.
Noted. I was looking at an 02 and an 82 when shopping for mine last month. This is the 02 I passed on.
Same money $3500 and same miles, less than 7000, as the 82 I ended up with.
Probably more refined but I had to go old school.
'82 Ducati 600SL Pantah.
That's quite lovely.
Don't see those very often.
Even though it says Ducati right on them, they sure look like Honda Speedo & Tach on it.
There is a good reason for that. Nippondenso was a supplier of gauges to ducati and other Italian motorcycle manufacturers for a number of years. In this photo you can see the "ND" logo at the bottom of the gauges.
The Legend lives again
I can hear 'er crackling from here. Enjoy, (semi-responsibly )
A few years ago I hung out occasionally with the boys from the Canadian Triples Club.
The noise a group of these would make, would make people come out of their homes & businesses to see what all the racket was about.
HUGE cloud of blue smoke flooding the streets as we went.
I have since sold my H1
Sorry, mine's not in the picture.
Did it get the .3 miles on it with you running around the yard making motorcycle noises?
Nice group of triples, and I regrettably sold my H1 also, great bike too.
Me and a mate at Amaroo Park Raceway western Sydney, the RZ is/was mine also, a 250 converted to 350, the H1 is a 72 model.
Bit of a special to try and tighten things up.
Hmmm.... my LC was a bit of wiggler at the limit with the stock 350 motor. With that monster in it, it might be downright scary. Still, a very cool swap and, of course, there's THE SOUND
Not my gauges. Just a random pic from the 'net to illustrate who manufactured them.
Probably from bench-testing the clocks when they're made.
‘rockt’ I rode a modified H1 and H2 and they did more than ‘wiggle’.
I was a club racer in the 1970s, and I saw a lot of Kawasaki triples ridden at speed. They looked scary as hell from the side of the track. They must have been fucking terrifying from the saddle.
The first wheelie I ever did was on a friend's Mach III. I rolled on the throttle at the bottom of a freeway on-ramp, looked over my shoulder to check traffic, and when I turned back I was staring at the gas cap.
Triples are brilliant race bikes and they handle great too, standard brakes were a bit scetchy but a decent set of race pads and it was all good it's a myth they were scary, have a look at this from Cycle Magazine back in 1973.
"The H-2 was comparison tested by Cycle magazine in 1973 against the Ducati 750, the Honda CB750, the Harley-Davidson Sportster 1000, the Kawasaki Z1, the Triumph Trident750, and the Norton Commando 750. The competition consisted of acceleration, braking distance, and road race course lap-times. Each test was run several times including 10 attempts at a fastest road course time. The H2 was the fastest accelerating machine, posting the fastest 1/4 mile run on a drag strip. Experts were surprised at the other results. Despite an uncomfortable feel and slight front wheel hop under hard braking and not giving the sensation of stopping particularly fast it had the shortest stopping distance and highest braking G load of all the bikes. On the road course, despite what had been heard and written about its ill handling, frame flexing and the supposed tendency to speed wobble exiting high speed turns, it was tied for the fastest lap time with the Kawasaki Z-1 to the tenth of a second. Overall the Kawasaki H-2 750 had the lowest ET, second-highest quarter-mile speed, the fastest lap time, the strongest braking force, the highest torque and horsepower readings on the dynamometer, the highest power-to-weight ratio, the lowest price and scored by points for performance was by far the least expensive per unit displacement"
Cycle Magazine had this to say of the 1973 Kawasaki 750 – “The Mach IV is the quickest, most intense; most single-purpose street machine ever built for general consumption, a streaming, purple-eyed monster that does everything with a shriek and whose only God is performance. Lay at its feet the hottest production vehicle you can name—two wheeled or four—and the Mach IV will chuckle, snort, and then eat it alive!”
The same article reads “The Mach IV had the most willing and the most hysterical engine in the entire test. It is often difficult to wind a motorcycle’s engine up to 7000 or 8000 rpm and then gas it wide open and drop the clutch. It’s unnatural and it’s abusive, and it makes you cringe inside. But the Kawasaki engine rockets to 7500 rpm at the touch of the throttle; nick it and it comes at your throat with a cacophony of ringing fins and slapping pistons and horsepower unrestrained. The Mach IV demanded the most attention at the drag strip. It was also the most fun to ride, a wild and skittish bucking bronco with all the talent in the entire world and not one single ounce of condescension.”
Read it here –
I raced both the H1 and H2 for about 5 years in Post Classic racing and I love them, the bike has a bad very un-deserved reputation.
Those two smoke Kwackers are ear bleeding tire burning monsters.