But I have the air glide with the liner. There is not a jacket out there that does not utilize a liner that will keep you 100% dry. Everyone on this board that rides in the rain has complained at one time or another about leaking gear in heavy downpours. I plan on buying a new Olympia Moto X suit after the first of the year. It also has liners. The Klim stuff has had leaks as well and does not breathe very well in warmer climates.