Olympic Basketball & Egomaniacs

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  1. Ruskie

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    ATHENS, Greece — Bronze is the best the American men's basketball team can do, and the reason is simple: They were beaten by a better team, Argentina.

    Manu Ginobili scored 29 points to lead his nation to another victory over the country that used to dominate the sport, an 89-81 win in the Olympic semifinals Friday night.:lol3
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  2. AnnieGS

    AnnieGS Namasté, bitches!

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    Using the term "team" to describe the US players is a bit of stretch...
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  3. Twilight Error

    Twilight Error Going nowhere slowly

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    Wasn't a fair game - they were playing 9 against 1.
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  4. Rad

    Rad Just me

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    I think the American arrogance is showing, not the athletes but the Americans who won’t believe that other countries can produce basketball teams that can beat our pro players. :nod
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  5. knary

    knary sunshine and puppies

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    I don't understand the animosity towards the players that chose to represent their country.
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  6. Ken

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    Maybe because the rest of the athletes are staying in dorms and the American bb players are staying in suites on the Queen Elizabeth II... :dunno
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  7. Ruskie

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    I'll offer my personal opinion...

    If any American professional sport is the epitome of the athletes that are ego driven, live in excess and are over paid, it is the American pro Basketball player.
    I hope they lose everytime they go to the Olympics. I'm glag my kids never looked up to any sports figure and especially the many nut cases in the NBA. Sure, there are good ones as there are in many sports, but in general you have a pack of whackos with too much money, no class and no brains.
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  8. knary

    knary sunshine and puppies

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    BUT these particular players still CHOSE to go over and represent their country.

    FWIW, I don't think professional athletes are "over paid". You may not value what they do, but obviously someone does. They're not stealing anything from anyone. They offer a product that the general public obviously wants. Attacking the players for living the american dream is nonsense.
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  9. knary

    knary sunshine and puppies

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    I was about to ask you, "Who else's opinion would you offer?" But then I remembered your fondness for the meaty cut and paste. :lol3
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  10. Ruskie

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    "Attacking"? :huh They are very talented at what they do. And I know that the "market" will dictate what they are paid. I can still state my opinon that they are paid too much and that many are not what you would call very nice people. that said, they got spanked:evil
    They are not unique at their trade and that was proven at the Olympics.
    I'd be very interested to know whether or not they were not paid through some percs to go to Greece. :deal :deal
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    Gotta kinda agree, 'cept I think it is true for players in every pro sport..

    I firmly believe that capitalism is so far the best economic system developed in our world. Have'n said that, pro sports points out a real weakness in capitalism; what can happen when greed by people such as players and owners alike goes unchecked.
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  12. Ruskie

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    I do that a lot in the political threads because it pisses people off. I actually have my own opinions on many issues.
    Psst! keep this to yourself but in real life I have a hard time voting for anyone person. it seems that as soon as a good guy enters politics, it only takes a few years before he is not recognizable. just another prostitute added to the brothel.
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  13. Ruskie

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    That's for sure, Rad. But as for as the big three, baseball, football and basketball it sure seems the real bad boyz in numbers coome out of the NBA. no?
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    We are looking at the demise of the NBA. Here is my prediction. If we do not win the gold medal in 2008, the NBA will fold within the next three years after that. The American public will not put up with having the best players stay home while a largely unproven cast goes to the Olympics and gets their butts kicked. The backlash will crush the NBA. You heard it here first.
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  15. astro

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    It's a wake-up call.

    Similar to what Canada hockey went through when their very best were embarrassed by a best of seven with the Soviet Olympic team. After losing the first games they eventually starting mugging them to tie up the series.

    Changed their mind set about Hockey and started a revival.

    Now all we need is a basketball revival.
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  16. knary

    knary sunshine and puppies

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    They are almost unique in their trade. We're still talking about hundreds of excellent players in the world, not thousands or millions.

    The "attack" comment wasn't necessarily specific to you. Lots bitch about how much pro players get paid...and then proceed to sit and watch game after game.
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    Team USA Basketball needs to not just pick superstars, but role players: i.e., some freaking shooters. :pissed
    What style defense do most Olympic teams play?
    Zone.
    How does one disrupt a zone?
    Hit shots from the outside.
    I suspect they've learned a lesson and will invite some 3-point boys to the tryouts next time around.
    I hope. :bluduh
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  18. kirkmoon

    kirkmoon Making up for lost youth

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    I enjoy watching the NBA pros play every now and then, but every time I watch I am astounded by what passes for legitimate play. Players routinely travel when driving to the basket. Body contact resembles professional football. Palming the ball is common. I assume that players are allowed to do this because it makes for more "exciting" play, but it seems as though it bastardizes the game into something closer to cheap entertainment (think Roller Derby).

    I suspect that the failure of these NBA stars to perfom well in the Olympics is due, in part, to the fact that these players simply don't know what to do when they can't travel, double dribble and muscle their way through their opposition on their way to the basket. Held to "clean" play, they're lost. Its almost like being forced to play a different game. They might be able to adapt if they took the time, but why would they bother? They don't really care about the Olympics except as a sidelight to what they are really all about - becoming famous and wealthy.

    This Olympics has proven that to win at Olympic basketball, you need to come in with a team of top players who know how to play this kind of basketball, who play together as a team, and who really care about winning. Sounds like we need a real national team ... but who would volunteer for this kind of duty when they can go into the NBA and make big bucks?
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  19. Ruskie

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    Word that:super
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  20. Tray

    Tray Yeah right...

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    :huh :cry :lol3
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