On Mexican Time

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by tricepilot, Nov 25, 2007.

  1. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    :wave Andy!

    Andy, don't wait to go to Alaska or Mexico. Your 650 or 1150 will be the perfect bike. :pope

    Your first dream is Alaska. Go find Shoganai's trip report on her trip there. You'll be on autopilot after reading that.

    I became friends with a guy your age this trip, and he and I and a few others are going it alone in Mexico in the spring of '08 (which is right around the corner). We'll take care of you.

    I have some spanish training stuff getting ready to be deployed in this thread, but let me tell you now, knowledge of spanish can change the way your ride in Mexico goes over. The satisfaction factor goes up exponentially.

    Come with us! Vamanos!!!!!! :thumb :thumb :thumb


    Bob :jose
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  2. psychsurf

    psychsurf Been here awhile

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    Great thread, Trice! Really informative and well put together.

    Be careful to whom you offer dinner on the riverwalk, though... It just so happens that San Antonio will be the jumping-off point for our late-janurary mexico ride.

    I'm just sayin'... :evil
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  3. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Mrs. Tricepilot wants me off the computer :evil , so I'll leave you with this teaser until tomorrow, when we head for Alamos.

    What does this guy, Carroll O'Connor, have to do with Alamos? If you can give any detail other than a basic guess, you win DINNER on the Riverwalk with Tricepilot AND a tour of the Texas Hill Country!

    Hasta Mañana!

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    "Those Were The Days"
    by Lee Adams and Charles Strouse

    Boy, the way Glenn Miller played. Songs that made the Hit Parade.

    Guys like us, we had it made. Those were the days.

    Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his weight.

    Gee, our old LaSalle ran great. Those were the days.

    And you know who you were then. Girls were girls and men were men.

    Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.

    People seemed to be content. Fifty dollars paid the rent.

    Freaks were in a circus tent. Those were the days.

    Take a little Sunday spin, go to watch the Dodgers win.

    Have yourself a dandy day that cost you under a fin.

    Hair was short and skirts were long. Kate Smith really sold a song.

    I don't know just what went wrong. Those Were The Days.
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  4. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    San Antonio won't be you're jumping off point, Casa Tricepilot will be your jumping off point. Just Sayin'! :beer
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  5. FemmeFatale

    FemmeFatale Perpetual Motion

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    GREAT RIDE REPORT!!!:thumb

    Pics and details were awesome!! Thanks for sharing!!

    p.s. Especially liked your confessional at the end:lol3
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  6. Squeaky

    Squeaky A Few Loose Screws...

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    This is too good Bob! You've got me glued to the edge of my seat! :clap

    Gracias por compartir tu aventura con nosotros :thumb (? did i get that right?)



    -future Mexican adventurist thanks to folks like you
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  7. OldBMWMaster

    OldBMWMaster Banned

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    I recall in an interview that he either has a house there, or lived there once.

    I believe he still owns a house there.
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  8. patsymack

    patsymack Been here awhile

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    I don't think Carroll is amomg the living but his estate still had the Hacienda as of last feb. when I pasted through there.It was for sale at around 600-650,000USD .
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    That's been my experience as well. I've always felt safer riding in Mexico than the USA
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  10. OldBMWMaster

    OldBMWMaster Banned

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    Yes, he is dead; but he still owns property there. Or did the last time I checked.
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  11. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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  12. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    About twelve miles southeast of San Carlos we passed through Guaymas and hit the tollway, Mex 15, through Cuidad Obregon and down to Navojoa, roughly 115 miles from Guaymas.

    It was nice and warm in Mexico!:

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    Here, you simply head east From Navojoa on Mex 13 to Alamos.

    I break out the Guia Roji, which I HIGHLY RECOMMEND, even if you use a GPS:

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    And check out the map. Alamos is just about 30 miles east of Navojoa:


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    Alamos is a sleepy little town that appears to be what San Miguel de Allende might have been back in the '60s.

    I pulled in and dumped some stuff from the bike at the hotel:

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    ...Which was very close to the plaza de armas and the church. I grabbed my camera and took off...

    Snapping pics of the courtyard on the way out:

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    By the way, I always walk around with one of these little gems in my pocket:

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    It will give you spanish to english, english to spanish, and conjugate all the verbs in all the tenses, plus provide commands and a ton of other useful stuff. I have not been to Mexico without it, in any situation. This and my camera are all I need when I go exploring. And exploring is why I come to Mexico.

    There is a book about the doors themselves of San Miguel D.A. There are just as many interesting carved doors in Alamos:

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    Down at the Plaza de Armas is the beautiful Catedral Nuestra Señora de la Concepción (finished in 1804) and square, a combo that is the charmer of many pueblos in Mexico:

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    The same catherdral from the perspective of the mirador on Cerro de Perico. Its steep cobblestones all the way to the top of the mirador - fun! :yikes :

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    Not sure about these guys who came right by:

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    At the end of the 1600's, silver was discovered near Alamos, and the silver mines gave rise to the town.

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    I tucked into a doorway and found this little scene:

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    And then darted down this alley right off the Plaza:

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    And found myself in the market area:

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    I walked in and out of severl dozen shops and talked with the locals to keep my spanish up to speed:

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    All of the ways to pick up the language, nothing works like throwing it out there with all the mistakes and goofs, and not caring if its perfect or not. The lovely people of Mexico appreciate the effort, and even a rudimentary knowlege of the language from a phrase book will take you pretty far. The more you know, the more fun exploring is.

    The gang was gathering back at the hotel:

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    (This is, I believe, the last known photograph of Canada Dave I's 1974 Harley flathead in working condition. Tomorrow, the motor would blow up underneath him on Mex 15)

    It was time to relaxe with a botella de vino tinto and think about dinner. I'll be right back with Phase II of Alamos, including the most amazing hacienda and a discovery by serendipity that I never would have expected.

    Got to go catch my breath for a moment.

    Ya regreso...

    Bob :jose
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  13. Lobby

    Lobby Viel Spass, Vato!

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    Alamos, eh? :deal
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  14. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    :wave FemmeFatale!

    You need to bring your 650 to Mexico at the earliest opportunity!

    After paying a mordida, the Father forgave me!

    Rebecca, your spanish is excellent. You will be a Mexico adventurer and that is something so great to look forward to! :thumb

    I am about to post photos of the buildings and the street surrounding the place. I'll let you all decide if this price is worth paying. Six years ago, the house next door sold for a fraction of this price.

    I think part of the answer as well is far fewer vehicles. But another reason I thought of is that the Mexican people either don't have the stress we put on ourselves here and/or don't take it out on the road. I relax when I cross into Mexico and tense up when I return. Happenes every time.

    Yes, according to Richard, the neighbor to the left of the O'Connor estate, it is still owned by his widow. Expat opportunity knocks for the right price!!!!!

    :raabia :shog:rogue

    Thanks Gwen, I am just being myself and I try to express the joy in riding that I get and the joy in discovery I have found in one of the most magical places on earth to me. June thinks I am a goofball so perhaps some of that Payaso type stuff is coming out from the seams in the report. :dunno
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  15. Uncle Pollo

    Uncle Pollo Long timer

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    May I interject with my Alamos photos? :augie
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  16. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Mrs Tricepilot and Tricepilot son, daughter #2 and daughter #3 are all black belts in taekwondo and they're off on the other side of San Antonio practicing as I write this. They concentrate on martial arts, I study spanish:

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    O.K. so at this juncture in Alamos its getting towards dinner, and I'm hanging around outside our hotel and run into an expat named Richard.

    Richard begins to tell me about his life in Alamos as an expat with his wife and two daughters, who are completely bilingual and in fact go to a Mexican school.

    Richard then proceeds to tell me about the house he bought 6 years ago, relatively cheap, and how he's fixing it up.

    Then he tells me it used to belong to Mary Astor (I didn't know who that was right away, but hang on) and in fact, his house is right up the block, next door to the house still owned by Carroll O'Connor - Archie Bunker from All in the Family!

    Turns out Mary Astor appeard in The Maltese Falcon with Humphrey Bogart and did 123 other films from 1921 to 1964 but her star faded towards the end of her career. You can go to imdb.com or google her for more info if you want.

    So before dinner, I get the invite to check out the renovations on the house, and off I go.

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    The Tricepilot moto at Mary Astor's place, er, I mean Richard's place:

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    Richard is making this into a casita - small guest house:

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    I don't know how you can get ahold of the O'Connor residence if you want to be Richard's neighbor, but if you come to Alamos for real estate you might want to check out the grand palace of the whole town, right across the street, which is for sale:

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    Looking through the gate:

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    This is the street, with Richard's place on the left, the white house, and the hacienda for sale behind the wall on the right.

    O'Connor's place is behind Richard's on the left.

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    The for sale sign if you want to spend some trust fund money (because you'll need that kind of money I'm sure to get this place):

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    I never would have found any of this out save for the fact that Richard was picking up food at the restaurant next door to our hotel and the conversation flowed after just saying hello...serendipity pays off again....

    O.K. Alejo was very excited by the place we were all going to dinner tonight so I had to be back by 7 for the short walk around the corner from the hotel to Hacienda de los Santos.

    I won't give any superlatives for this place other than to let you check out the website for the place and you can decide for yourself:

    http://www.haciendadelossantos.com/

    Also, Alejo's camera was much better than mine and he is a much better photographer, so I'm sure he'll chime in here with some of the better photos of the place.

    This is Will and his wife of 30+ years at the table next door being serendaded by the house band:

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    The woman on the right in the first picture above with the band is the daughter of the owner of the place, and the guy she is with is the head of the band and someone who became her husband. So, he stands to own the place someday!

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    I think this was Alejo's flan:

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    These are their recommended tequilas:

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    This was certainly the high water mark of places to eat on the trip. I am more comfortable on a regular basis with simple mom and pop places to eat, but a place like this once in a blue moon was a heck of a treat!

    The next day back up on the mirador for one final look over the city of Alamos:

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    The sunrise over the Alamos area, as we get ready to head for El Fuerte soon..

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  17. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Fire away mi hermano!
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  18. Uncle Pollo

    Uncle Pollo Long timer

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    So ... we arrived to Alamos.

    Canada Dave, needed to get a new axle nut since he lost his on day #1.

    This will not be the last time that his bike will be on the trailer.

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    The owner.

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  19. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    A couple highways signs to decipher while Alejo prepares his photos:

    perhaps the most common (other than TOPES):

    POBLADO PROXIMO

    and the challenging

    CEDA CAMBIO DE LUCES

    On that last one, to win lunch on the Riverwalk with Tricepilot, you need to explain the custom behind this directive

    Bob :jose
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  20. Uncle Pollo

    Uncle Pollo Long timer

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    Approaching Alamos gives you this visual reference

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