One Bike to Rule Them All?

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by FishrCutB8, Nov 22, 2012.

  1. Ryel

    Ryel Been here awhile

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    Do you really want to go two-up? Maybe the ladies need their own bike? that new Honda 250 is looking pretty sweet and the WR250 Yam has been very well received.
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  2. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    Check out the Yamahonsuzutriktmbeemerasaki. That seems to have just what you're looking for.
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  3. Vincenthdfan

    Vincenthdfan Been here awhile

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    What he said!! I have one that I got dirt cheap...torquey, fun, reliable, TONS of aftermarket farkles available, and lots of forums to research regarding lessons learned along the way. :clap
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  4. ikonoklass

    ikonoklass Kountersteering Krew

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    This is what you want. I've seen used '12s under $10k.
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  5. MrKiwi

    MrKiwi Ageing Enthusiast

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    Sounds like your riding prescription is just like mine. Tar seal riding but want to head up those gravel roads but not necessarily the rough dirt tracks.

    I also want to have my wife on the back from time to time for trips and tours.

    So for a bike that is used one up most of the time but needs to do two up with gear, there are two bikes to fit my bill for this, one cheaper than the other.

    The BMW F800GS - pricey but good.

    The Tiger 800XC - cheaper, a lovely triple motor, slightly heavy for serious off road but an excellent all round bike and my choice for my next bike.

    Cheers
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  6. Nightstrom

    Nightstrom Adventurer

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    Vstrom. It will go wayen credit for. Single tracks, no. Anything else it will rip through just fine. Just like any adventure bike, you will want to add protection and possibly tires depending on the beaten paths you want to check out. I added mx handlebars which made a huge difference in offroad control. Bullitproof and fun. I have done gravel, dirt, light mud, grass, hills, etc, on mine with stock tires and no issues. If you just like to explore, the Strom is your bike. Avoid a KLR or DR, as they are an enduro, not an adventure bike. While people try to put them in the same catagory, they are truly two very different bikes. Dont buy one expecting the other. I couldnt live with an enduro every day, so an adventure bike fits the bill. I may upgrade to a Triumph Explorer XC when released or a BMW GS 1200 because I have really come to love the adventure segment. But the Strom is a great bike and does everything I ask of it. Im not looking to be a dirt bike rider,. I just like to go out and ride what feels like a comfortable street bike, and then when I see something I want to explore, I do.
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  7. GrahamD

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    My recent History.

    Sv650 --> DL1000 --> Super Ten.

    Super Ten is the bees knees but a bit out of your price range. DL1000 is great value. With the new one around the corner you may end up with a few good 2nd had 2012 models very soon. The 8000XC and that 1100 multi are worth looking at as well. The 800XC is still a bit exe.
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  8. Reposado1800

    Reposado1800 Juicy J fan!

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    A DL650 is the benchmark for the class.
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  9. FishrCutB8

    FishrCutB8 Oh HAI!

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    I hadn't considered the Multi, and I am not averse to looking at used (would actually prefer used) so I will add it to the list. The Teneres I see are out of that league.
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  10. Ragin Rabbi

    Ragin Rabbi Semper Fidelis

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    I'll throw a used 1150 GS into the mix. I picked up an 1150 GS Adv for $6,000 with new clutch, Jesse's, and a whole slew of farkles.

    Great bike, and I am a mechanicle moron and was able to do the valve adjustment. TB sync? Well, a man needs to know his limitations...:lol3
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  11. FishrCutB8

    FishrCutB8 Oh HAI!

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    Maybe I should be more specific. I don't mind wrenching, but I don't want my bike laid up in a shop for months on end, or nickel and diming me. I am just learning, but I like working on things.
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  12. FishrCutB8

    FishrCutB8 Oh HAI!

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    Yeah. That's a hard sell with the Mrs....for now.
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  13. FishrCutB8

    FishrCutB8 Oh HAI!

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    You're not helping either... :-)
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  14. FishrCutB8

    FishrCutB8 Oh HAI!

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    Not long-winded at all. This is part of what I was looking for. I have seen people busting on them, but the people who ride them seem to love them. With HD giving up on Buell, though, I worry about getting parts later on.
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    FishrCutB8 Oh HAI!

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    Shhhhhhhhh...this is part of my long-term plan, but we're not there, yet.
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  16. FishrCutB8

    FishrCutB8 Oh HAI!

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    Is it available in orange?
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  17. Dirty bike

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    Stick with what you know, the VStrom 1000 is a good mix of what you want. More of a standard, so more upright than the SV 1000, priced in a good range, not a ton of changes between years, so used is a viable option. Ins. is cheap.

    Consider a set of Heidenau K60 tires. Bias, but long wearing and a more aggressive tire that can better handle off pavement, but is still a very good street tire too. I routinely see 12k+ on the rear on my heavier Super Tenere.

    Spring for some of the crash bars and skid plate. Then, don't stress about it falling over. It happens. If you have the protection, no damage occurs, just a little scrape or scratch, no big deal. Ride on.

    Jaxon Fife at Ride On ADV has the Heidenau tires, as do other vendors. Jaxon is good people. Get the guards that you like and make you feel secure, then just ride the bike. The ManStrom will do well in commuter mode, two up mode and won't suck horribly off pavement. Just remember it's not a dirt bike and take it easy and you'll have a blast. The VStrom 650 is perhaps better balanced and more flickable in the twisties, but for two up it's a little lacking and frankly, the extra Hp of the 1000 is kinda nice on the commutes and any longer trips on the slab.

    Don't bother with the exotics. Not that they don't have things to offer, but for what you describe wanting to do, you don't need the extra cost or maintenance.
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  18. FishrCutB8

    FishrCutB8 Oh HAI!

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    Another bike I had not considered. Thanks.
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  19. FishrCutB8

    FishrCutB8 Oh HAI!

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    I have to say, this place is so AWESOME! I really appreciate the thoughtfulness and responses thus far. Thank you.
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  20. Aj Mick

    Aj Mick Been here awhile

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    Like the odd other I reckon you could be better going for a couple of bikes. Let the old Shelia, and the kid (once licenced, but she's not to young to start learning. I started riding when I was eleven) ride their own. The two up malarky is ok for a bit, but I prefer riding solo. Go on your own when you want. Ride in pairs when you want company.

    Why not go for something like a Honda CBR250R and a CRF250L. OK only a quarter litre, but they would cover your bases (on and off road) on relatively lightweights that are fun to ride. They are highway capable, and byway in their element.

    The pair could be had not much more than a just one bigger machine; less than something exotic. At 70 mpg, and generally cheap to run, they would cost not much more to own than than a single big bike.
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