Ontario Advise Please

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  1. Joezeph

    Joezeph Been here awhile

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    Coming up from the southern US state of Arkansas & wanting the most pleasurable route to see the Great Lakes & to include Sault St Marie & Niagra.
    350mls a day region, best places along the route, shall l enter Ontario via Michigan or Wisconsin, & stuff like is it better to take the 400 or the 11 south from SSM to the Falls.
    Also, what is the cut off point for the weather with a balance of great fall colours, NO rain, temperate climate, etc?

    Thanks in advance.

    PS, l'll be riding a Tiger Roadie .
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  2. dbrum

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    No advice on where you should cross, but you can track fall leaves coverage here: https://www.400eleven.com/seasons/fall/colour-progression-report

    Right now it's 0% we're in a bit of a heatwave that will last for at least another week. I don't think you will see much change till late Sep or early October. You won't feel bitter cold in areas you are riding till mid to late October in the AM and evenings/nights. Daytime will be pretty pleasant till about then usually. Niagara Falls is good to see anytime up till they freeze basically.

    You can find some common nice routes here to take: https://www.ontariotravel.net/en/play/powersports-touring/motorcycles/tour-planner
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  3. CaymanRider

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  4. Skootz Kabootz

    Skootz Kabootz Been here awhile

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    If you are going to Niagara Falls you can cross the border over the iconic Peace Bridge. It is a busier crossing point but definitely one of a kind.

    http://www.peacebridge.com
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  5. PFD023

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    I'm in North Bay.....colours are changing fast. Even faster in the Bracebridge area.
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  6. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    Many ways to go. I took the east Michigan coast over the Mackinac (sp?) Bridge and it was a good run. There should be lots of colour up that way now and into SSM.
    Avoid the 400 when possible. The 11 and side roads around it are awesome. Beautiful colours up there. Some of the nicest you'll ever see anywhere.

    When you get to Barrie, head towards Guelph, south to Hamilton, then NFalls.
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  7. Joezeph

    Joezeph Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the replies so far guys!!!! :thumb
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  8. 1bigrn

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    I would go through Duluth towards thunder Bay and circle lake Superior to the Sault Ste Marie towards Sudbury, through Toronto and straight to Niagara.
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  9. JC100

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    If you want to get the experience of riding in Toronto just pull your bike into the nearest public washroom and ride around until you get tired of doing 5kmh and continually smelling pooh. For the full experience throw crumpled notes into the toilet every 10 minutes or so.
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  10. 1bigrn

    1bigrn Been here awhile

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    I agree. But there are not many ways to Niagara without going through NY or Michigan. if are down on Oct. 13th, you may want to check out Friday 13th, Port Dover. Approx. 1 hrs from Niagara and generally a nice ride to get there.
    The other route to Niagara from the North would be taking ferry from Manitoulin. Then avoid T. O.
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    check your PM and don't listen to the idiotic comment about Toronto
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  12. Joezeph

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    Thanks for the informative PM sir, but everyone has their own opinions of any city, l personally hate most cities for riding a 'bike through,
    but I enjoy sightseeing in them!
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  13. JimmieA

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    The route around Lake Superior is great. This is route #17 and starts as Sault Saint Marie and ends at Thunder Bay. There is a USA segment that a lot of people take, circle of the lake. The area called International Falls is nice, just a little west of Thunder Bay on the USA border.

    Just as a heads up, don't try to bring a gun into Canada, bad idea. Don't get caught doing excessive speed in Ontario, lots of enforcement and nasty fines. Bad idea to ride at or near dark, lots of game on the roads in remote areas. Going to be getting cold soon. That wind off Lake Superior is brutal. I would recommend a heated vest in your kit. Gas in Canada is at least double your gas cost. Enjoy your trip.
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    Pay very close attention to the comments about Toronto traffic. It's all true and usually even worse than you thought. IMO, the riding west of the 115 generally sucks except north,north, the good Ontario riding is east of the 115.
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  17. Joezeph

    Joezeph Been here awhile

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    So without getting concerned about the rest of my potential route, what is the best way to get from West to East of Tornto without hitting traffic even if it means a 50ml detour via a scenic backroad???

    PS, just by chance l found out l need a specially printed insurance document from Progressive to show the *colour blind Canadian traffic cops that l'm covered north of the border!
    *it HAS to be printed on a specific colour of paper/card!!!!
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  18. JimmieA

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    We have pink cards here. I have used printed cards occasionally but it should be pink. As long as you have valid insurance, that is good in Canada you should be good. Worst they could hold you till the office opens but that would be extreme.

    As far as a route. I would say there are lots of routes that avoid GTA or Greater Toronto Area and I would take any one of them and avoid the GTA. It is a concrete jungle, full of bad traffic and crazy liberals! Look at that International Falls route. The Kenora area is great, a huge lake with like a 1000 islands, Lake of the Woods, way cool in the summer. Freezing cold in the winter.
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  19. thwak

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    There is a toll highway #407 that will take you across the northern edge of Toronto from west to east. It also allows for a connection to the Niagara Falls area. However it is all multi-lane slab and Very expensive toll.
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  20. Joezeph

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    LOL, l hear EVERYTHING is expensive up thar!!!!
    Is there a more leisurely & scenic rout to Niagara from Sault St Marie guys?
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