opinions- DRZ400 wide ratio gears or wr290r?

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by jordan p, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. jon_l

    jon_l Long timer

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    You're right, I jumped to the racehorse-out-of-a-jackass post right off.

    Sounds like you prefer the DR-Z, and they are plentiful, and typ cheaper than the WRR, so I'd buy a well-sorted, well-cared for DR-Z and forget the expensive gear swap.

    I love my WRR, but it isn't exactly a torque-monster.
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  2. Kommando

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    Try on a DR-Z. If it can fit you, find a good deal on a used DR-Z, then add an auto-clutch and tall road gears. Build it however you want for less than the cost of a KTM or Husky. If you kill it, find another good used deal and swap your stuff.
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  3. Grreatdog

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    I have to agree with everybody that is saying to just buy what you want because it already exists. Even my decade old KTM640 is as light as the WR250 or the DRZ and flat out smokes them in power, suspension and brakes. Both of my KTM's were bought used. I have maybe $6000 in both and they have been as reliable as a hammer. Actually more so than any Japanese dual sport I ever owned. So I just don't see going to the trouble and expense to roll your own. Buy a used 450 EXC and call it a day.
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  4. GSF1200S

    GSF1200S Been here awhile

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    I might be necro bumping this, but ive entertained this idea as well. I dont think I could handle dealing with the WR's peakiness after having traveled with a DR650- I have always been a torque lover.

    While the DRz isnt a DR650, I do think I could sacrifice some torque for 30 pounds less weight, more ground clearance, and longer travel suspension. I havent found the DR lacking for my uses really, but I am definitely part of the camp that constantly tries to go lighter and smaller as I progress through bikes. I cant help but feel that my trail vision would change with a lighter bike and I would see more lanes, try more trails, etc.

    I am currently on the road, but I am planning a trip to South America in my head and I think it will either be on my DR650 or a DRz. With a much better seat, wider gears, a bigger tank, and the various protection bits, the DRz might be perfect in that role.

    At the same time, I cant help but think of putting a 790 kit in my DR, going with a cogent rear shock, going insane on reducing weight even more than I have, and STILL spend much less.

    As for those who say it approaches KTM price, consider those who dont have a DRz yet. You could buy a BEAT Drz with high woods mileage for 2500, change the wheel bearings, suspension bearings, do the suspension (revalve/respring), rebuild the motor and use the ACT WR gears, and spend maybe 6k total on the whole machine. As a dirt bike I agree- get a KTM. As a South America mount, these gears make a lot of sense.
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  5. AZ TOM

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    Do you have a link to the trans. swap on the DRZ?
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  8. tonymorr

    tonymorr Malta,NY(Saratoga Spring)

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    A WR290R feels like an entirely different bike than a WR250R. It makes a fantastic DUAL sport bike even better.
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  9. jon_l

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    Not sure what this is, but it sounds nasty :evil

    I went from a DR650 to the WRR, and am very pleased with it. More torque at lower RPM would be nice, but no bike is perfect. The WRR just needs to be wound up.

    I've never been to S. America, but I read lots of ride reports, and technical trails don't seem to be involved. To me, the DR650 is the ideal travel bike when gnarly off-road isn't in the picture. Since you already own one, it would be an easy decision (for me).

    I think the WRR and the DR650 are both better bikes for road work than the DR-Z, due to the DR-Z's tranny. I never felt the DR650 needed a 6th gear, but everybody seems to wish for a 6th gear on the 400.
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  10. tonymorr

    tonymorr Malta,NY(Saratoga Spring)

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    WR/R likes to rev and it's a blast to rev. It revs the same with the 290 kit but you also get low end torque. win/win
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  11. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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    Late to the party but who cares :D

    I'm in a similar situation....cant afford 7-10 k for a from the factory bikes. Looking at a drz..2 grand....then add a carb and exhaust and the next year pull the motor and drop 3 grand into it.

    So for a bit less, quite a bit less, a drz with cams, big bore, striker, longer gears, pumper carb all freshly built...50hp but with lower level maintenance than a high performance bike.

    Smart? Probably not but I don't have the cash up front for an out of the box awesome bike...also I get to fully rebuild a motor which would be a first for me.

    Will I regret this? Ya probably :rofl
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  12. jordan p

    jordan p projects > time alloted

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    As they say in Rap music...YOLO hahaha you only live once.

    I bought a brand new drz-s for the record. Since then I have a second set of wheels for dirt, and my stock wheels have a 320mm rotor and sticky 18/21 rubber...a 4.5 gallon tank, quick release windshield and 16tooth front sprocket for ADV duty. A e model plastic tank and a 14/48 setup for offroad. I think I made the right choice, and with the gearing I have on both wheels I can use the same chain... Ill never do the WR gearing on the Drz...specially since Ill be moving to Maui in Feb...useless there lol.
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  13. XRman

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    Owned a wrf290 and drz400e with ACT wide ratios.

    For long distance rides,go the drz

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  14. 4play

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    I had a built WR306R that was very nice, I just completed a DRZ462 with an ACT trans that is very nearly perfect for a highway capable bike that can-do singletrack with no changes. I would love to have FI in some ways, but then again gravity feed fuel and a carburator are pretty bullet proof
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  15. JPbikepilot

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    Hey 4play,
    Who did your engine big bore kit and WRT? If you did it yourself, how much of a PITA was it? Do you have the FCR or CV carb? Did you do a 3x3 mod and re-jet the carb? Was it all worth the trouble? How much cash did all the mods cost? I have a 2003 DRZ400S and I'm contemplating doing what you did. I also have a WR-450 but the DRZ is so much more comfortable on the street. I'm just down the road in Goodyear. I'd love to see your bike.
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  16. Navin

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    Put a Cush hub on a EXC525/530/500 and change the oil. It is the furthest evolution of a Husqvarna 570/610.

    Same 1.5 qt of oil as a WRR. It will take you years to wear out the top end, YEARS.
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  17. kyns

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    No need to 290 the WRR. It is very capable as a 250.
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  18. 4play

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    I did the work, it was no worse than any other engine. You're welcome to come by & take it for a spin to see if it's what you want.
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  19. JPbikepilot

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    4Play,
    Thanks for letting me checkout your bike. It's an awesome DRZ. Performance and suspension wise it reminds me of my 07 WR450 but with better maintenance intervals. You've done a fantastic job. I'm still on the fence as to if I'll mod my DRZ like you did. How was the Death Valley ride?
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  20. 4play

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    Anytime, I gotta say riding your BMW was a mistake, that thing is a sweet road bike.

    The DRZ, I really like the balanced compromise it's morphed into. The bike is very capable off road, can carry plenty of gear for a trip & cruises the hwy reasonably well without hurting itself. I spent a day in death valley on a well prepped 690 & I can honestly say I prefer the DRZ on anything under 60mph, after 60 it's hard to find fault with the 70Hp KTM.
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