Opinions on Tourmaster Gear?

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by ballshot, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. ballshot

    ballshot nOOb in training

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    I am upgrading my current riding gear (shorts & flip-flops) for some long trips this year and I am considering the Tourmaster Series III jacket and Tourmaster Venture pants. Reviews that I have read seem to be very positive for the most part. Does anyone have any experience with either of these? I am interested in your opinion on their crash worthiness, comfort in heat/cold, waterproofing, etc. PS, I'm only kidding about the shorts/flip-flops.
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  2. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    In my experience:

    Tourmaster is very good value for the money.

    (Currently own Transition II jacket and Caliber pants.)
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  3. Snarky

    Snarky Vodka Infused.

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    I'm going to try to not sound like a bitch here.

    I've had some experience with tourmaster I had a Cortech jacket and now use a tourmaster one piece suit, my friend wears a yellow tourmaster jacket no idea the model. Tourmaster is good protection for the money. I feel like I could be dragged behind a truck for a while in the suit and come out mildly annoyed. However, when it comes to cold and wet you have to supplement it with additional gear, pretty much like any clothing. Even the 1000$ BMW stuff would probably need a little help for really shit weather.

    Past more than a light drizzle and water soaks through tourmaster stuff, and it takes forever to dry it out, and cold is fine with the included thermals to about 50-60F at highway speed long range, just keep it dry with a PVC suit or something. When you get to the mid 40s and below, past a short trip (couple hours+), it gets COLD (at least for Texans). We just did a 13 hour trip across Texas in rain and cold, and it was pretty miserable, we had to stop at wal-mart a few times and occasionally grab some extra clothing/dry stuff. Even with rain gear and undercoats and snow pants we were struggling the keep dry and warm. This is not the fault of tourmaster though, the weather was just really crappy. There's not much that's going to work in a torrential down pour AND near freezing 35F degree temps and then not be miserable at all the other times when it's NOT random March weather in Texas.

    Really, though I would say tourmaster stuff worked really well inspite of bad weather, my legs and torso were not the coldest part of me by ANY means, it wasn't even on my radar till I got off the bike. It was my feet and hands that were friggin dying. Despite expensive winter 'waterproof' thermal gloves and expensive 'waterproof' moto boots, my gloves and boot were just full of water, and then that water would chill and pain would ensue. I even have hand guards, glove liners, neoprene boot liners, and boot rain covers. I just could not solve the problem at all, I'm still working on methods to be more comfortable aside for "not riding".

    I would say that if you're going to have a miserable time because of weather, you'll have issues with your hands and feet first before you'll even think about the areas your tourmaster jacket or pants are covering. Both my friend and I had the same issue with the rain and cold vs tourmaster gear, and the same issue not caring about it because our hands and feet were cold, haha. After we got our hands and feet warm with dry gear after a wal-mart stop, our next issue was with was our helmets and finding the right ventilation vs fogging up. You could either have low visibility or a cold face and brain freeze, with defogging spray doing... nothing. So again, our torso and legs weren't even on the radar.

    I'm not a whiner I swear, I waited until the pain in my hands was unbearable to stop and deal with it. I didn't want to be comfortable persay, I just wanted to be able to grab the brake. Haha.
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  4. ADVWannabee

    ADVWannabee Been here awhile

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    I differ in opinion somewhat from Snarky. I have a Tourmaster jacket and pants, click through my ride reports to see them, and they have kept me warm and dry. I have been in some heavy rain and into the 30s temperature wise and been fine. I do not wear the thermal liner that came with the jacket but substitute a fleece instead. I use the rain liner in the pants to block the wind if it is cold out.

    My only complaints about Tourmaster is the rain liner in the pants is short. I have 8" boots and the tall version of the pants yet the rain liner rides up above my boot. The pants themselves are plenty long but why such a short liner? The other complaint is that the jacket shows a lot of wear because the fabric fuzzes up and it just generally looks dirty even right out of the washer. But it is a motorcycle jacket that sees lots of miles in the open outdoors so I don't really care about the look so much.
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  5. Firenailer

    Firenailer just passin' thru

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    A bought the Transition Jacket this year and I have to say I'm very happy with it. It's been pretty weatherproof so far, and seems to be very well made.

    I have to say I didn't expect much when I bought it, as the price seemed rediculous, but it's a great jacket!
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  6. hrolf

    hrolf neophyte

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    +whatever on the transition 2 3/4 jacket. Mine's about 2,000 miles old, and still looks new. Ventilated enough for muggy 90F boston summers, but wind resistant enough to handle 33F rain and wind and darkness of boston autumns.

    I'm a fan. I think i paid $180.
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  7. s1marks

    s1marks Mercedes

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    I have Tourmaster hi-vis venture pants with about 20K on them.

    I wouldn't buy a hi-vis pant again. Tourmaster or other, they just get too grubby.

    My experience with them makes me want to avoid Tourmaster as a brand, I'm just not overly impressed, I 'think' First Gear and probably Olympia are a better bet (and also some Field sheer products)..

    The Good:
    The venture pants are Warm in the cold weather and the knee armour seems pretty reasonable. Liner is easy to take in/out.

    The Bad
    The stitching is not great and has come undone on one leg (which I patched up...with man stitching), they leak horribly at the crotch in the wet (at least I think it's the pants and not my age) and they are VERY hot on hot days (not a problem any longer I bought some mesh pants so I don't have to wear them when it's real hot).

    S1.
    Yeah, it's definitely the pant and not my age.
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  8. wiskee

    wiskee Adventurer

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    I have a hi-viz Tourmaster Transition Series 2 jacket that, to me, works great. I haven't had any problems with rain... keeps me dry. Material and fit is good, too. I use the thermal liner in the winter and I stay warm in 30s-40s weather no problem.
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  9. YZman

    YZman Bouncing off Trees

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    Similar experiences as others with my Tourmaster Transition jacket and venture pants. Good quality gear. With the liners in it keeps me plenty warm down into the 20's. With the liners out and vents open I can ride into the 90's (although its still damn hot) although I dont wear the pants when it gets that hot. Its just too much.

    In a light misting rain it works fine. But if you get cought in a downpore... your getting wet. It is not waterproof. On my 20 min comute in a light rain I will stay dry. But if the rain is really coming down.. Im going to be wet. Shoulders/back gets it first followed by leaky croch in the pants. then my pant legs and finially my shirt cufs. Other than that I stay dry... :lol3 But at least Im warm.

    Im going to try Olympia gear next I think. My Tourmaster gear is getting a little worn out and needs replacing.
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  10. outsidein

    outsidein Been here awhile

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    Unlike helmets gear is not certified or even tested to see if it will work in a crash.

    Not to sound like a gear snob but Tourmaster (and Joe Rocket, Fieldsheer, Icon, etc) are value brands. What you get with their gear is a cheap price and very basic functionality along with hopefully some abrasion resistance in a low speed crash. To sell at the low price though they make some significant sacrifices in abrasion protection (light polyester vs heavy Cordura), stitching strength, hot weather venting, breath ability (Gortex like wind/water liner vs plastic coated fabric) and insulation (Thinsulate or other high tech insulation vs basic polyester fill) compared with mid tier gear like Rev'It or Olympia.

    Most better textile gear uses Cordura or similar material in the shell which is many times more abrasion resistant than the cheap polyester most value brands use. Google "Save your hide guide" for a comparison chart of materials.

    Personally I have owned Joe Rocket, Tourmaster, Rev'It and Olympia gear. Big fan of Olympia jackets for their cost/performance and long term durability. IMO the slightly increased cost of say an Olympia AST over a Tourmaster Transition (similar styles) is well worth it in hot or cold weather extremes, the AST vents and insulates much better, and has much more abrasion resistance. It will also last much longer and stand up to abuse better. Teiz is another often recommend brand.
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  11. ballshot

    ballshot nOOb in training

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    Thanks for all the info/insight. Very similar to the reviews that I have read, for the most part, a good “value”. I know “you get what you pay for” when it comes to crash protection or anything else for that matter. Eventually I will move up the quality ladder for gear but with the payment for my daughter’s first year of college fast approaching, my gear budget is strained at this point. The pants will be a big upgrade from my normal blue jeans and the jacket will be better in the warmth/water resistance/visability area than my no-liner Scorpion jacket (man it was cold in December in that).
    ADVWannabe – I enjoyed your Dragon ride report; I will be making my first out-of-state/multi-day ride down there in May.
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  12. TallRob

    TallRob Long timer

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    I crashed in the Series 3 gear years ago and it really let me down. I love teir heated gear but their armored gear is really poorly made.
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  13. bracky72

    bracky72 Been here awhile

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    If your buying new I don't think you can do better for the money. I have 2 jackets, pants, 3 pairs of gloves and a pair of boots and they are all decent.
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  14. gfloyd2002

    gfloyd2002 Title Free Since '12

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    I can't speak to their jackets, but I wear Tourmaster Solution 2.0 boots for daily commuting and find them more comfortable than other boots I've owned at 2 or 3 times the price. Waterproof in tropical downpours, too. Functional rather than stylish, simple, and good value for money.
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  15. bomber60015

    bomber60015 Anatomically Correct

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    The other rider in outr house has a Transition 2 jacket -- rated very good on the rain-proof scale, very good on the wind proof side of things, and looks good after two years of heavy use.

    The only caveat I have is that the thing has more snaps, velcro and zippers than an S&M convention! Also, where the velcro come into contect with the outside shell of the jacket, ,the fabric piles and fuzzes like there's no tomorrow -- this makes me wonder about it's crashability, but the jacket's owner isn't concerned, and I've learned to pick my battles ;-}
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  16. sierraoffroad

    sierraoffroad Long timer

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    i have an older cortech jacket and pants made by tour master and really like the fit and function. as far as waterproof they're good for a quick shower, but prolonged day in rain i will wear the tour master elite II pants and jacket over my cortech jacket and pants. overall tourmaster is very good value for the price you pay.
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  17. k12lts

    k12lts Been here awhile

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    I have had the same expierence with the boots. Great value for the money, very comfortable and absolutly waterproof after 3 years of wear.
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  18. OkieTom

    OkieTom Been here awhile

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    I am on my second Tourmaster Transition jacket and really like it, first one lasted well over 75,000 miles. It just fits better than anything else I tried even at twice the price. I had a pair of Caliber pants that were horrible, Had them replaced 3 times under warranty for leaking at the crotch and zippers failing. Finally just trashed them and for just a few dollars more bought a pair of Olympia pants and what a difference, fit is way better, real zippers and actually waterproof.
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  19. kenny61

    kenny61 Crazy Idiot

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  20. Nnordsman

    Nnordsman Nnordsman

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    I have owned several pieces of Tourmaster gear. The only piece I currently own are Caliber pants. The feature set for the price is probably second to none. That said, I have had problems with every single Tourmaster product I have owned. The features are good, but the quality and workmanship stinks. If you ride the traditional 3-4K per season it is adequate for a couple of seasons. If you ride more than this you will burn through the gear's usable life in short order. I have actually had much better luck with JR gear on the low-end, then I have with Tourmaster.
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