Oregon lane splitting bill SB 541

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  1. scout18

    scout18 Been here awhile

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  2. peterman

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    tho I don't live inna big city and rarely get trapped inna true gridlock type mess,,there are times when traffic is just stupidly slow,(like Aquanout), and in those cases the median shoulder and outside shoulder should be open to bikes and scooters,:clap,, and the 20 mph is right on too,,this is the same speed they allow us to drive if we are hitting children in skool zones, so it makes sense.
    I also think that all that terrific dirt track right up the middle of most freeways ought to be open to bikes and 4 wheelers,,at a reduced speed limit, of course.
    we could add our own whoops and tabletops as needed..public roads,,the porsche and ferrari guys get the freeway, nobody but the lawnmower uses the median! that's just wrong!:lol3
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  3. Motomedic

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    I think you're on to something there. I have often looked with desire on the nice wide grassy median with roost in my heart....

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  4. jc9995

    jc9995 Commuting BEAST :)

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    This would be sweet....contacted my senator(s). :wink:

    This could really shorten the 74 mile RT every day.
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  5. MortimerSickle

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    Maybe handy sometimes, but...

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    One of my workmates once was talking about how he would use his method to deal with a motorcycle trying to get between lanes.

    I told him, "I hope that door funnels that motorcycle right onto your lap."

    He had no more to say.
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  6. Easy-Z

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  7. bdcorrigan

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    I think we should be able to ride in the bike lane or on bike trails.
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  8. HellsAlien

    HellsAlien a has-been that never-was

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    Yeah, but then we would just run stop signs, not signal, blow through red lights, lean on other people's cars at intersections, get pissed when we pass on the right and get cut off. :lol3
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    Hahaha very true
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  10. BSkye

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    Yup....totally can see myself splitting lanes, balancing that white line clear down into town, through town and out of town ...

    :D

    even in the bike lane on the road, however being a bicyclist as well I do not think that separate bicycle paths should be shared with anything "motor"....pretty crowded already!
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  11. Rob.G

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    The whole reason I started riding was to split lanes (was living in California at the time). It's BS that it isn't allowed elsewhere.

    I'm astonished to find this bill in existence. I've been bugging the piss out of my Oregon reps for several months about getting a bill submitted. I finally got somebody willing to do it -- Senator Brian Boquist. I was in the process of assembling all of the documentation and drafting sample legislation for him, and he was going to have it drafted and submitted in the 2014 legislature (since the time to submit for 2013 has passed).

    I even have a blog on the issue: http://www.lanesharingworks.com

    I'll admit, the text of this bill is nowhere near as comprehensive as I would prefer. I was going to have it written to mimic California's CHIP guidelines for Lane Splitting, and even include the two accessory laws, which prohibit cars from interfering with motorcycles attempting to split, including opening doors.

    Still, I'd be happy to show up and testify in its favor when it gets to committee, since I live in Salem and already work downtown. I've also emailed Senator Boquist to ask him to look into this bill for me.

    Rob
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  12. BSkye

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    Very cool!
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  13. Squishy

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    I agree with that, lots of families with kids out there enjoying themselves, they don't need motorised vehicals ripping through there just to save time.
    I do miss lane splitting here, that i was able to do overseas, even bought a scooter once just to lane split on my trip to & from work through heavy downtown traffic, would eliminate 1/2 an hour sitting in traffic...each way.
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    Dear Oregon State Representative,

    I am writing to encourage you to support Oregon Senate Bill 0541, introduced by Oregon Senator Larry George.

    As it’s practiced in California, lane-sharing offers a way to reduce congestion by creating an additional lane for motorcyclists to use when traffic is stopped or slow moving. It conserves energy in two ways. First, it keeps the motorcyclist and other traffic, to a lesser degree, moving. A moving vehicle is more energy efficient than a stopped vehicle plus the commute time is reduced further reducing energy use. Second, it promotes the motorcycle as an alternative form of transportation. Motorcycles get between 35-90 mpg which beats the average car, SUV, or light truck by a huge margin. Lane-sharing may actually be safer for the motorcyclist than being sandwiched between two larger vehicles in stop-and-go traffic. Additionally, some motorcycles (particularly air-cooled) don’t do well in a stopped or slow moving environment and must keep moving to avoid engine damage.

    One inexpensive, simple, effective, and immediate way to reduce traffic congestion is to permit motorcyclists to travel between two slow moving lanes of traffic. Doing so adds capacity to every existing four-lane road in the entire state of Oregon. In California where "lane-splitting" is legal, common place, and has been found to enhance motorcycle safety, it is embraced as a significant component of traffic congestion reduction.

    Proponents of lane splitting state the Hurt Report of 1981 reached the conclusion that lane splitting improves motorcycle safety by reducing rear end crashes. Lane splitting supporters also state that the US DOT FARS database shows that fatalities from rear end collisions into motorcycles are 30% lower in California than in Florida or Texas, states with similar riding seasons and populations but which do not lane split. The database is available online to the public. The NHSTA does say, based on the Hurt Report, that lane splitting "slightly reduces" rear-end accidents, and is worthy of further study due to the possible congestion reduction benefits.

    Thank you for your consideration of SB 0541.
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  15. Wallowa

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    Well...from my observations of motorcycles splitting traffic on freeways and surface streets my personal opinion is that it is dangerous as hell..that video above was of a bike moving a few miles an hour..envision a sports bike, or cruiser, doing 50 +mph between vehicles with literally inches to spare IF the cars are centered in their 12 foot wide lanes...in congested traffic cars weave, bob and try to advance mere inches without turn signals.<o:p></o:p>
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    Just my perspective...but I do not think quelling the impatient motorcycle riders in commute or a road backed up from construction or an accident is worth the risk.<o:p></o:p>
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    Right side passing has numerous draw backs..now if there was a high occupancy commute lane that allowed motorcycles… that might cool down those that can't wait or figure out an alternate route. Don't rush through life, enjoy it.<o:p></o:p>
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  16. bensgone

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    Both Oregon and Washington would have to make a real effort at getting the word out that this is now legal if it did pass or Mort's video will be all too common. I just can't see this going well in the NW and anyone who plans to do this should invest in a gopro to help prosecute cagers with the intent to kill riders.
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  17. SF_Hooligan

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    I'm an outsider (from California) but have been in contact with Rob G - I run a li'l site about lane splitting as well, sort of a PSA for motorists that it's legal since lots of folks don't know that - just 52% of CA drivers know splitting is legal according to a recent study (PDF).

    I've been splitting lanes in CA for over 25 years. Like many folks in California, it's a pretty big part of the reason I ride. I wanted to weigh in on the whole "intent to kill riders" thing. I often hear folks saying this and the reality (from years of experience in super gnarly SF bay area rush hour traffic) is just like all the other stupid shit that motorists do - they're just not paying attention. I know you get the occasional idiot running his mouth on some forum about his standard response is to open his door, but most folks don't think that way and even fewer will actually do it. I can count on my ten fingers the number of times I've thought someone intentionally blocked or otherwise impeded me while splitting over the years. The rest of the time - just not paying attention.
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  18. Wallowa

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    Yup inattention and letting their cars drift around within lane or darting into a small space between cars to advance a few feet is the real hazard to those riding in the space between the cars. No matter the reason, get clipped and it could ruin your day.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    What I found interesting was the statement that "many folks in CA" ride motorcycles because they can split traffic [if I read that correctly]? Really? Man, if they buy bikes to run between lanes of slow or stopped cars to save on commute time, well that just doesn't seem too bright, but I could be wrong.<o:p></o:p>
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    Must admit I split lanes just North of Golden Gate Bridge many decades ago in stopped traffic on a very hot day riding my FJ1200 in a Dakar 3/4 length leather sauna and it felt like I was playing Russian Roulette...even at a much younger age, a wink of wisdom shined through and that was the last time I did it. I got off and headed to the coast for a fun ride North.<o:p></o:p>
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  19. SF_Hooligan

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    Let me clarify the "ride because I can split lanes" thing. I don't really have any data on this, but many people I talk to, especially here in the bay area where there's a pretty significant year-round, moto commuter population, cite lane splitting as one of the big reasons they ride so much. For example, my commute from Oakland into SF is about 15 miles each way across the Bay Bridge and takes about 25 minutes when I'm splitting swiftly but sanely (roughly in accordance with the CHP guidelines). I've done this commute exactly three times in a car (I ride every day, rain or shine unless I specifically need the car) and it was at least 60 minutes each way in call cases. Once, it took 90 minutes.

    So while I don't know too many folks who got a bike specifically to lane split, I do know lots of folks who cite lane splitting as one of the top reasons they ride every day. I love riding, and even though it's sketchy as hell, rainy days on the Bay Bridge are a real blast.

    For reference, over the years I've done various commutes ranging from 25 miles through urban environments to Sacramento to the Bay Area - 110+ miles each way, every day.

    But if I couldn't split - and my commute would take as long as it does in a car - I'm pretty sure I wouldn't gear up every day. I'd still do it a lot, but probably not all the time. For me, commuting by bike is worth it because of a combination of speed, ease of parking, better MPG (of course outweighed by increased tire costs, etc but never mind that :rofl) and just plain fun, balanced against increased risk. If the increased speed component (very significant advantage here in the bay area) were removed, I might be tempted to stick to riding on sunny days and saving my tires for weekends and longer trips.
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  20. bensgone

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    The lanes in the bay area are also a minimum of 2 wider than pdx. We also have the corner on regulators. You know, the asshat doing 53mph in the left lane and throwing hard looks and brake checks in a prius.
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