Ok guys, this is my last question regarding this topic, honest. A buddy and I will be doing a trip from Anchorage to Great Slave Lake and back this summer and need to decide what soft luggage to use. It will either be Ortlieb panniers or Great Basin bag, so here are my questions: 1. Ortlieb states 52 liters capacity and great Basin 50 liters, so pretty even. So question is this. Ortlieb packing space is basically a box and Great Basin a long tapered tube. To me, I would think Ortlieb would be easier to pack and actually carry more? Your thoughts? 2. The 2013 version of Great Basin does not have the built in 2 fuel bottle pouches or the so called built in sleeping bag pouch. Which of the two designs do you like best? I am leaning towards Great Basin. Thanks, again.