"Other riding myths"

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by TanasiRob, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. ten_fiver

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  2. DAKEZ

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    When one rides a motorcycle there is NO RIGHT of WAY. There is only Right of Weight.

    It is the riders responsibility to avoid the violators and cater to how humans see things.. If they can't they shouldn't be riding IMO
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  3. dwoodward

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    The problem is when riders that "just lean" get into a situation, they try to steer out of it. Usually they don't have time to set off their Hit-Air vest before they lay 'er down.
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  4. tkent02

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    Actually more riders die because they don't know how to steer around corners that they have already entered too fast.

    They don't know to push on the bars, they don't know how to brake in the turn, they don't have any idea how sharp their bike can turn or how to turn them the sharpest.
    Panic, fixate on the guardrail / rock / pole / tree / car, or whatever, game over.
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  5. ten_fiver

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    I'm not picking a side, I was just posting what I found from this article. If you have a better link, post it up.

    http://www.motorcycleaccident.org/mo...ssible-causes/
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  6. helion42

    helion42 Been here awhile

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    Here's one I didn't think I saw in here - "motorcycling is cheaper than driving". Sure it can be if you really REALLY budget or ride a scooter, but that rabbit hole just goes on and on.

    Also, link is dead.

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  7. tkent02

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    I think maybe my information was from a long time ago. In this day and age of few drivers even trying to pay attention, and a lot of riders not doing much better, the left turner may have surpassed the flying off the corner technique.
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  8. fallingoff

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    yes it was once
    pd less petrol(gas)
    less purchase price
    simple, rider could fix
    less rego costs
    less to go wrong
    cheaper road tolls
    cheap tyres
    parts smaller and cheaper
    etc,etc

    SO WHAT HAPPENED?????????
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  9. orangebear

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    for me i stopped drving a car as the cost of insurance was getting way to costly so i sold my car and have been on a bike since were the insurance is nice and cheap so i still save money per year even if my bike uses a bit more fuel.
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  10. Tripped1

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    Depends on your mileage per year and the vehicles in comparison...and mechanical apptituted (aka your own maintenance)

    My Speed Triple next to my F-150 when I was commuting 36,000 miles a year, WAY cheaper, the fuel savings between 17 and 45mph made up for the higher maintenance costs, chain, tires (x3 rear x2 fronts).

    No my commute is literally like 7k a year, I don't bother commuting on the bike a lot of the time, I live 4 miles from work, I spend more time taking gear on and off than I do actually riding....but if I was year over year, the bike(s) would be more expensive.
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    Depends on your mileage per year and the vehicles in comparison...and mechanical aptitude (aka your own maintenance)

    My Speed Triple next to my F-150 when I was commuting 36,000 miles a year, WAY cheaper, the fuel savings between 17 and 45mph made up for the higher maintenance costs, chain, tires (x3 rear x2 fronts).

    Now my commute is literally like 7k a year, I don't bother commuting on the bike a lot of the time, I live 4 miles from work, I spend more time taking gear on and off than I do actually riding....but if I was year over year, the bike(s) would be more expensive.
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  12. markk53

    markk53 jack of all trades...

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    So what you're saying is:

    "Sure, I can teach you to ride." is a myth when uttered by your friend.... :lol3
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  13. markk53

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    Apparently you assume I'm some dumbass. But you're making me wonder if you are...:D

    If you look off to that pasture long enough you WILL start to steer that direction. It is about picking a line, not zig zagging everywhere your eyes look.

    It seemed fairly clear - you look at the options, you pick the option you want, you go there. Try it and tell me if I'm wrong. Conciously pick a line about 6" from the edge of some spot on the road however far ahead of you as you are riding, Don't stare at it, just conciously pick it and continue your normal ride. You will pass within an inch or so of that spot. Ride within 6" of the centerline at 70 mph by picking that line a few hundred feet down the road, while still observing all else.

    It is amazing how close one can hold a line when they actually concentrate on picking it while scanning. Problem is when someone looks at the hole or whatever in the road, never looking for the line around it. Ya gotta pick where you want to go and believe it or not you are constantly doing so, otherwise you'd simply crash. You look ahead through a corner selecting your line as you scan, altering it if something catches your attention, like a tar patch. It's quite real.

    Happens when cars stop in front of people too. Ever see a bike crash where the skid mark indicates lots of room to have done somthing... like go around the car on the left or right, turn into a parking lot or a side street? If they'd have looked they'd have gone there. But they limited their choice to that rear bumper where they were looking.

    If you only looked at the obstruction you will hit the obstruction. If you looked for the alternative and picked an alternative path you'd have gone around the obstruction. Been there done that, a lot.

    You looked left to right to clear the shield, but you'd already seen and picked your line.
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    Obviously never seen Marco Milandri's girlfriend

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    Or Casey Stoner's wife:

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  15. dirtrulz

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    Just because the accident involves another vehicle does not automatically mean it is the other vehicles fault. Lots of reasons for a motorcycle to hit another vehicle and it be the cyclists fault.

    Another thing is they are talking deaths, what about accidents that dont involve a death.

    I am on the side that most motorcycle accidents, are caused by adrenalin fueled stupidity of the rider.
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  16. RxZ

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    You're a teacher off for the summer, right? Maybe you need to go for a ride :dunno

    You being a teacher, would I be correct in assuming you know the theory behind assuming?

    Ass/u/me :deal

    Anyway, looks like current temps at 10:40 eastern time are from the mid-60s to mid-70s all across Ohio, perfect riding weather! :freaky

    Edit: You do bring up a good point though... I should practice extreme evasive maneuvers more often than I currently do (which is almost never). I would venture a guess that most all of us need to.
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    some people can rider a bike with out thinking about it other people have to think every small thing they do so make a bike turn / work.

    me i dont think about turning the bike round bend i just ride them.
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    yawn.... I am too old for little girls. Now if one of them was dating Christina Hendricks I would reconsider.
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  19. fallingoff

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    1980 in ''biker bar'' in canada
    talking bikes, no accountants then ie ;pirates
    knowledable riders
    but i rode a ducati v twin
    they had never of ducati
    told them it was my only
    transport and that i rode 12 months a year
    they were flabbergasted
    asked when i rebuilt my bike
    i said didn't need it.
    just different weather in nth america
    and attitude to riding


    countersteering
    very old
    first told about in early 70's
    shown on tight 90 degree bend
    by older rider
    why is this such a revoloution
    seems natural to me

    imho
    2c

    cheers
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  20. AZbiker

    AZbiker Crunkin' with crackers

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    aaand we're not talking about those 1-pc suits, we're talking about 'Stiches and their ilk. :deal