Oz bike trip

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by fiwi, Feb 20, 2012.

  1. fiwi

    fiwi Been here awhile

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    Hello all. I just completed a 7100 km trip around part of Australia on my gs. It was a whirlwind trip, only 15 days, way too short and way too many Kms in that period but it was still a great trip

    I started in Perth, onto Kalgoorlie, Laverton, across the Great Central Road to Uluru, the Macdonnell ranges, across to Alice Springs, south to Glendambo, dirt track to Wirrulla, across the Nullabor to Esperance, then up through the south west to Perth. 7100 km, 2050 of that was either dirt roads or track.

    Saw some amazing sights, met some amazing people. The 800 gs performed reasonable well, some small hassles, nothing that got me into any trouble though.
    I put a kenda big block on the front just before the trip. It has held up well, slightly worn but fine . It was a nightmare of a tire for the first few hundred Kms till it settled down but after that it felt really good. I have an anakee on the back which is now toast.
    I had to have my rear bearings replaced in Alice Springs, about 3000kms into the trip. I guess the 1200 km great central road( unsealed) finished them off, although I should have checked them before I left, silly boy.
    One issue I had, and potentially a big issue was in regards to my oil light. It started flashing a couple of times on the trip. Once I was on a dirt track on the middle of nowhere, dark, slightly lost, and the light started flashing. Stopped, gave the bike a few minutes, checked the oil, which was fine, started the bike and the oil light wasn't flashing anymore. This happened at another point in time also. On both occasions I wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary. Can anyone give me any input on that?.
    I also now have a problem in 5 th and 6 th gear. 5th gear is pulsing/ vibrating quite a bit at about 3000 rpm, and 6th gear just seems quite rough in general. 1 to 4 are fine. I had the same problem about 12000 km ago, BMW said there was no prob, ppfftt. I had the chain and sprocket replaced about 10000 km ago and that fixed the prob, I don't know how. it's a gear issue I think, not chain, I ride along, clutch in and coast and it's as smooth as. Will get it checked out at the now due
    service.
    Also had a lucky call on a dirt stretch of road. It was a 7km stretch of unsealed road in between 60km stretches of Tarmac. I forgot to turn the abs off. I came in too fast to a tight turn, couldn't slow down in time, over the bank, into a small tree. A branch had managed to pierce my radiator cover and damage the fins on the radiator itself . Luckily it didn't do more damage.
    Anyway, apart from battle scars from the trip, the bike did well.

    I LOVE MY GS
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  2. Bayner

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    The oil light will come on when the fan tries to move but can't. Reach in there and give it a spin, try to free it up- it hasn't got much clearance so that stick may have fouled it all up for you.
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  3. fiwi

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    Thanks bayner, I will check it out
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  4. fiwi

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    Sure enough Bayner, the fan was jammed, thanks for that
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  5. Loose Nuts Rick

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    When your chain wears, each link will wear at a different rate to the next. Over time, all the pins and bushes in your chain will have slightly different amounts of wear and clearance, causing one half of your chain to be longer that the other half of your chain. Your sprockets turn at a constant speed. If one half of your chain is longer than the other, your engine revs and bike will pulsate slightly up and down, particularly noticeable in the higher gears.

    If you notice your chain tension goes tighter.......looser.........tighter.......looser etc when you turn your back wheel around and around for a while, your chain will cause the symptoms you describe. Make sure you tension your chain so the tension is correct on the tight part of the chain. If your chain is adjusted too tight, you will damage your counter shaft and wheel bearing over time. Not a good thing, costly to fix. An easy trap to fall into.

    Start by changing your chain. Keep your old one. If the new one doesn't fix the problem, you've got a spare chain, and you can look else where for the problem. From your description, I'm sure your chain is the culprit.
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  6. fiwi

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    I totally get what you are saying loose nuts, and thanks a lot for your input, I will check out the chain tomorrow. Can you answer this for me please. Why is it that when the bike is pulsing/vibrating, and I pull the clutch in and coast, the problem is gone? I assume that it is because when coasting there is no force being applied to the chain, would that be right?
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  7. Loose Nuts Rick

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    Yep, you got it. When you pull the clutch in, the front sprocket can speed up and slow down without the weight of the motor on it. I'm glad you understand that. Most people have trouble picking it up.
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  8. fiwi

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    So, my chain and sprockets were replaced under recall at 18000 km, 12000 ago. What sort of mileage do people usually get out of a set?. Should I be replace both front and rear sprocket or just rear?. Is there any common reason for this problem happening?, chain not tensioned properly when fitting, wheel not aligned properly when fitted, or is it just the way it is with chains, you take the good with the bad?.
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  9. Loose Nuts Rick

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    On my KLR650, I replaced my chain and both sprockets at 30,000 K's. The rear sprocket was still good. Front sprocket was rooted.

    I replaced the front sprocket and chain again at 60,000 K's. The chain was still doing its job, but the front sprocket was rooted. I didn't replace the rear sprocket.

    At 95,000 K's, I replaced the chain and both sprockets. The chain had a loose spot, the rear sprocket was worn and the front sprocket was rooted.

    At 110,000 K's, I sold the KLR and bought an R1150GS.

    I replaced the chain on my '82 shovel (HD) at 18,000 miles. I put a heavy duty RK non O-ring chain on. It needed constant adjustment and only lasted 2,500 miles, so I replaced it with another O-ring chain. Haven't touched it since.

    ZZR 1100, replaced the chain and sprockets at 30,000 K's, again at 65,000K's, then sold the bike at 102,000K's.

    I lube my chains every fuel stop. My HD has an auto chain oiler.

    Most of my friends get 15 to 20,000 K's out of their O-Ring chains and sprockets. When we're away, they don't oil their chains till they get home. One of my friends leaves oiling his chain to his bike mechanic. Gets done when he has his bike serviced. He gets by, no problem.

    If your chains last 10, 15 or 20,000K's, that's just the way it is. If you fork out some extra money and fit a DID Gold X-ring chain, you might go a little longer between changes. Bike shops generally won't fit a top of the line chain unless you ask for it. They don't mind changing your chain and sprockets at all.....bread and butter for them.

    If you only got 12,000K's out of this last chain, they may have sold you a "budget" or "economical" chain. Most people don't like paying for high end parts. I don't like paying for them either, but I don't mind using them.

    Doesn't matter what kind of chain you run, oiling it helps. I always oiled my chain, even on outback bulldust roads. I often wished I was the kind of person who didn't care about their chains and sprockets, oiling it is a pain, but I get high K's out of them.
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  10. guzzimike

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    18 million miles out of a Shovel?!!!!!
    I'd be phoning Willie!
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  11. Loose Nuts Rick

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    :roflThanks......Fixed it.

    I bet your guzzi goes a few miles without any chain maintenacce. :D
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  12. fiwi

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    Guzzimike, any interesting places you have found to ride near Perth?, day or weekend trips I mean.
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  13. fiwi

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    Loose nuts, thanks for taking the time for to reply, much appreciated
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  14. guzzimike

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    Forgotton what a chain was until I bought the F800. I even got rid of the cam chains and installed gears in the Guzzis.

    Heaps of 'em mate, whereabouts are you?
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  15. fiwi

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    North, Quinns Rocks
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    Hey fiwi, check your PMs
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  17. fiwi

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    Hey loose nuts, I checked the tension on my chain both on the centre stand and on the side stand. It seems that at no point around the chain is it tight in any way, it seems quite even in fact. any ideas?
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    While I'm at it, there is a small black plastic panel, right side, just below the gs sticker which is held in place by 2 metal prongs I think, and 1 torx screw. The thing is, some how I have stripped the screw and the metal piece that it screws into. I don't want to be re tapping anything. Does that size torx screw come in a longer length so that I can just feed it right through and put a nut on the end?
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  19. Loose Nuts Rick

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    Well........ perhaps it's not your chain??

    You were saying in your first post that your bike is now due for a service. Your mechanic should steer you in the right direction. Sorry I wasn't more help.
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