Oz/Kiwi Husqvarna/Swm 610/630/650 owners thread - Sign in Here please

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Trang, Dec 12, 2007.

  1. stujamur

    stujamur keep rollin rollin rollin

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    Asi the 610 is a big dirt bike - it has rear pegs and can 2 up but i would suggest it is not designed well for 2 up and is not very good at it . It really is just a big dirt bike that can handle long stretches of tar better then some other dirt bikes .

    I have not ridden the terra 650 ( there is a tr650 thread here ) but it will be much better for 2 up but the compromise is it will not be as good when the going gets tougher and rougher .
  2. poppy

    poppy Slow and Steady

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    G'day Guy's, i didn't actually manufacture one, i pulled the airbox and boot out and cleaned everything up, re-installed the clamp then sikaflexed the two componets together. Now it needs to be removed as one piece if and when it is required. The only place it can come off now is from the throttle body. I only found out when i pulled the bike apart to clean it. When re-assembling it, it seemed quiet easy to over tighten the clamp which would let the the two pieces slip apart. So i pulled it back out, put back together as one and then re-installed it. And it is easier to remove and install when required. That plug in breather hose could be fixed in by drilling a 1/8th hole through the female section and putting a split pin through it. I ran some tapearound the breather pipe and made it so it was a real tight fit.
    Something like this cotter pin would work well.
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  3. WILL_S

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    Good idea with the split pin on the breather ,i used a ziptie.
  4. boxerr80

    boxerr80 Rob T

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    I have always liked the 610 and last year purchased a 2 nd hand 2009 TE 610ie with 4,000 Km to use as an adventure bike.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
    I have a BM F800 GS but can not use the all the horse power so I was riding a heavy bike and not using it's performance ability and decided to go for a lighter bike for its ease of riding.<o:p></o:p>
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    I was amazed how well the husky performed nice power it will cruse all day at 120 KM giving 26 Kpl which gives me a 400 range with a fuel bladder , great suspension, light weight I luv how you can just lay on the ground and change a tyre etc or pick up if you drop it, miles better the the DR 650 I owned some time ago and since purchasing the Husky do not ride the GS<o:p></o:p>
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    I added a small screen, sheep skin, soft pannier frames , which made a great light weight tourer 47 tooth rear sprocket . Mitchelin T63 tyres <o:p></o:p>
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    Now the problem I was travelling to the Snowy mountains to spend a week riding the 4WD trails through the Victorian high country. Had travelled 500 Km mostly on main roads and was having a great time than the vibration started which shook all the fasteners engine bolts loose before i got back to a town, my mates wasted an afternoon helping but I made them keep going as Ii did not want to ruin their holiday <o:p></o:p>
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    A ADV rider search has highlighted the problem of the balance shaft drive coming loose and should not be too hard to fix, I hope no other damaged has been done as I rode 70 Km after the heavy vibration started . <o:p></o:p>
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    The problem is I am not a regular trail rider but like to use a bike to get to out of the way places mostly using some type or road/ track often doing 600 Km weekends travelling at least 10,0000 Km most years. I was happy to rebuild the motor every 3 years and even change the Cam chain every 18 months I do not mind working on a bike but I want to trust the bike will get me home.<o:p></o:p>
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    I luv this bike but when I use it want to have a trouble free run.<o:p></o:p>
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  5. stujamur

    stujamur keep rollin rollin rollin

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    Boxerr80

    See some previous posts a few pages back about this - with links to pics
    The vibes are your woodruff key is broken and the counter balance is gone .
    You need no 9 woodruff - 27 & 38 mm sockets - 73 ft lb on the nut when you replace the key .
    Dusrbruva rode about same distance on his and all was ok .

    Once that nut is regularly checked and torqued you should have no issues with longevity . Fella in usa are up 30-50 thousand miles on there 610 .

    Regular checks on cam chain and check the washers and springs in the clutch cush while doing the woodruff.

    Drz / dr / xr they all need bits and pieces checking / keeping an eye on .
  6. poppy

    poppy Slow and Steady

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    I went and got some R clips and pinned the breather tube so it cant come out. Took about 1 minute to do, should have done it ages ago. I used a dremel/die grinder with a 1/8th drill bit.

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  7. enookway

    enookway Are we having fun yet?

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    I have one of those low Km ones for sale. 06 with 14k on it. I've had 10,000 trouble free km.

    The comments on here about the clutch spring cups convinced me to remove the clutch basket and inspect it.
    There was signs of some wear, and I had been getting a few flakes of metal on the sump plug, but nothing like some of the major failures that others have posted.

    I bought this bike to ride to work and do a few long distance rides. Has done this brilliantly. Moving interstate so bike has to go.
  8. PB49

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    Poppy You are correct "Lynx" originally designed for the TE610

    What a great piece of kit well made and actually works costly but worth every cent :D
  9. Frapple

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    I have found the TE610 to be the ideal long distance ADV bike . If I was in the market to replace it ,it would only be with another low k 610 or 630 . For my money and intended use they have gone backwards with the new model . That being said there are some things you will want to do if you intend to do big miles/hours .

    1. Replace the clutch cable with an aftermarket unit 50mm longer . The OEM unit will snap .
    2. Rebuild the clutch basket with washers from 'Indy Unlimited' . Do this sooner rather than later .
    3. Grease the airbox bolts so the inserts don't pull out .
    4. The alloy sub/sub frame supporting the taillight will snap . I removed all and fitted aftermarket LED taillight riveted to mudguard . No problems since .
    5. The auto cam chain tensioner is very stiffly sprung . This contributes to short chain life . Some have gone to manual adjusters though I suspect a lighter spring would also help .
    6. I rebuilt my seat for more comfort
    7. Carry a spare water temp sensor on long trips . In time I will carry a fuel pump as well . They are getting cheaper .
    8. The injected bikes run very lean and are susceptable to low grade fuel . Happened to me last year in the middle of nowhere outback QLD . Bad fuel =pre ignition(engine knock)=blown head gasket . Luckily that was all . Carry some octane boost if in doubt . I suspect an ignition remap would help also .
    9. I cut down my muffler 50mm and removed the cat converter to help breathing though lots buy aftermarket cans . This will have also contributed to the pre-ignition problem .
    10. I made a centrestand which is a great help allround .
    11. The headlight is laughable . I fitted a trailblazer? and two led spots . Now acceptable .
    12. I fitted a 25litre tank . 600 k's now .
    13. Have broken rear subframe bolts in the past so will now renew with high stenght units before every serious trip .
    14. Have read that there have also been isues with footpeg bolts so am keeping an eye on that . No issues yet .
    15. Some have had problems with the battery carrier cracking . Solved that problem by building up lithium battery packs . I carry 2 in case of failure . Still much lighter . Don't like cold weather though .
    16. Put some vaseline on the speedo sensor cable joint . Goes haywire with dust otherwise .

    Other than the clutch issues ,most of these things are just personal setup and fine tuning . Like all bikes they will benifit from suspension setup and such but even out of the crate they are a fine handling bike that will go almost anywhere you point them . They are good to work on and well made . Husqvarnas don't have the best resale but that is no reflection on the quality of the product , more of a reflection of the marketplace . There are lots of bikes of all types that are bought to fix a mid life crises , do a couple of hundred k's and then sit in the garage for years . Hope that some of them are still there in another five or so years when I put my son on my bike and go looking for a low k 630 .

    Cheers
    Frapple
  10. boxerr80

    boxerr80 Rob T

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    Thanks for your reply my bike has only 6000 Km at this stage. But as suggested I pulled the right cover of the engine and sure enough the inside gear on the crank that drives the balance shaft turns freely. There is no metal or pieces of woodruff keys to be found , will purchase a 38 mm Socket and Gear Jamer and remove the gears to repair. I think I was luckly does not seem to any other damage I hope the key way in the crank is undamaged.


    I have found the TE610 to be the ideal long distance ADV bike . If I was in the market to replace it ,it would only be with another low k 610 or 630 I agree cruses at 120 KPH no problems fast enough for me ,I do not ride my BMW F800 GS much now, the Husky has enough power and the light weigh it is hard to beleive how 60 kg reduction improves handling . For my money and intended use they have gone backwards with the new model . That being said there are some things you will want to do if you intend to do big miles/hours .

    1. Replace the clutch cable with an aftermarket unit 50mm longer . The OEM unit will snap . Done Pull is much lighter now

    2. Rebuild the clutch basket with washers from 'Indy Unlimited' . Do this sooner rather than later
    I will order the washers but was not going to check until 15,000 Km would you do it earlier
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    3. Grease the airbox bolts so the inserts don't pull out .
    What I did was longer bolts screwed in from the back of the Air box and secure the lid/cover with nut from the outside makes it very easy to check filter.
    4. The alloy sub/sub frame supporting the taillight will snap . I removed all and fitted aftermarket LED taillight riveted to mudguard . No problems since . Have repired mine with aluminium flat bar will see how it goes.
    5. The auto cam chain tensioner is very stiffly sprung . This contributes to short chain life . Some have gone to manual adjusters though I suspect a lighter spring would also help . Will check how many clicks are out of the adjuster. was hoping to get 15,000 Kmm before replacing Timing chain is this too long ?.
    6. I rebuilt my seat for more comfort Also had mine lovered 25 MM as iam a short ass now OK not great
    7. Carry a spare water temp sensor on long trips . Are these expensive ? Does the bike not run if the sensor do not work Could I just carry a resistor of the correct ohms to place in line to fool the computer that the bike is hot to get me home.

    In time I will carry a fuel pump as well . They are getting cheaper .I have seen these for $100- ON eBAY http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/160807967682?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

    8. The injected bikes run very lean and are susce
    table to low grade fuel . Happened to me last year in the middle of nowhere outback QLD . Bad fuel =pre ignition(engine knock)=blown head gasket . Luckily that was all . Carry some octane boost if in doubt . I suspect an ignition remap would help also .
    Mine is very lean thats way it gives such high 26 KPL I removed the after market pipe and find the bike runs better with the standard pipe smooth power . If I can find simple a way to run richer I would refit the after market pipe. On my BM I fitter a power chip only $70.00 from Holland and made the bike run richer by foooling it that the temperature is cooler that accua temperature, smoothed out the power delivery gets around the very lean situation.

    9. I cut down my muffler 50mm and removed the cat converter to help breathing though lots buy aftermarket cans . This will have also contributed to the pre-ignition problem .

    10. I made a centrestand which is a great help allround .

    11. The headlight is laughable . I fitted a trailblazer? and two led spots . Now acceptable . Have fitted a LED spot light would luv to fit a high quality 7 " round headlight. Spot light makes the light almost acceptable.

    12. I fitted a 25litre tank . 600 k's now . I cheaped out and purchased a fuel bladder 7 litres but with main tank and the 26 kpl gives me range of 400 Km maybe 500 Km which gets me by.


    13. Have broken rear subframe bolts in the past so will now renew with high stenght units before every serious trip .
    Replaced mine with 10.9 Hi tensile.

    14. Have read that there have also been isues with footpeg bolts so am keeping an eye on that . No issues yet .


    15. Some have had problems with the battery carrier cracking . Solved that problem by building up lithium battery packs . I carry 2 in case of failure . Still much lighter . Don't like cold weather though .
    I have been looking at the new lithium batteries now available was not sure how the charging system and regulator would handle the lithium battery the weight saving would great.

    16. Put some vaseline on the speedo sensor cable joint . Goes haywire with dust otherwise .
    Good Idea

    Other than the clutch issues ,most of these things are just personal setup and fine tuning . Like all bikes they will benifit from suspension setup and such but even out of the crate they are a fine handling bike that will go almost anywhere you point them . They are good to work on and well made . Husqvarnas don't have the best resale but that is no reflection on the quality of the product , more of a reflection of the marketplace . There are lots of bikes of all types that are bought to fix a mid life crises , do a couple of hundred k's and then sit in the garage for years . Hope that some of them are still there in another five or so years when I put my son on my bike and go looking for a low k 630

    The quality of the 630 appears to be greatly improved and the new DOHC head may get around the Cam chain problems time will tell, we will not see another bike with the 610/630 combination of light weight and suspension and smooth engine power.

    The down side is the high maintenance but I am prepared to live with that for the brilliance of the ride.

    Thanks for your encouragement.
  11. Frapple

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    Looks like you have covered most bases . The clutch I would do now ! I did mine at around 15000 and had to go digging to find all the bits of metal . It is a dumb design done badly . The water temp sensor was around $40 if I remember . Bike will still run though not very well , thermo fan runs all the time and lights will come up on the instruments . You should find the two halves of the woodruf key if they have sheared off . If not where are they? Don't want them banging around in there . I made my battery out of LifePO4 battery cells . Regulator works fine . No mods needed . The over the counter lithium batteries fit right in with no mods as well .

    I would not say the 610 is high maintenance . It has a few issues that once fixed should not be issues again . It is a big single and needs regular oil changes ,valve checks and that is about it . The cam chain is the only biggy and I think that with manual adjusters you could double the life of that .

    What it doesn't need is thousands spent on the suspension trying to get it to handle . It doesn't need to go on a massive and expensive diet to shed weight . You don't spend the whole ride wishing that the bloody thing would vibrate less ........except if you were a BMW rider !
  12. Frapple

    Frapple Adventurer

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    Missed one .

    The lean running is indeed an asset as they get great economy . Just something you need to be aware of when outback . I do intend to remap at some time . A little richer perhaps and a little more stick .
  13. WILL_S

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    You still run the resistor in line with the switch?
  14. WILL_S

    WILL_S OUTLAW POSTIE 001

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    probably easier to fit this


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    What's needed for low quality fuel to work?
  15. TEdan

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    Hi Guys,
    Just checking a new way of posting photos.
    This is from a ride down around the Urbanville.
    Hope this works.

    Cheers Dan


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    Just another test.
    This is my 09 Kim 450 I'm trying to sell.
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  17. stujamur

    stujamur keep rollin rollin rollin

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    Hey dan photos worked - 1st small maybe 200x200px kato big . Maybeb800x600

    Kato looks nice i have often thought of having 1 as a more single trail bike then the te ..

    Do you find te covers that reasonably well so dont need kato ??? Ive not ridden many light enduros
  18. TEdan

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    To be honest Stu, I haven't ridden the KTM on the trails as it was a part payment to me for a job i did for a bloke.
    I'm sure it would eat up the single trail better then the TE, but I couldn't ride either of them to their full potential so its no big deal. I just love the TE and i'll ride it on any single trail anyway.
    I"ve had the kato for about 6 months thinking i would ride them both, but i've barely get time to ride one bike.:cry
    No point having it sitting around not being used. :(
  19. stujamur

    stujamur keep rollin rollin rollin

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    Ye i just sold my little postie and am sticking the $$ into some suspension on my te . Really enjoy the bike and will be keeping it so might as well have it really well set up for me .
  20. WILL_S

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    ok
    already got the bazzaz for cheap for a 630
    can programme switchable 2 maps
    what sort of km does the 630 get on the crappy fuel?