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Discussion in 'Australia' started by davorallyfan, Feb 20, 2007.

  1. DR DAN

    DR DAN Lost & Found somewhere

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    Adventure Bike Aust are excellent Mal & Karen know their stuff missed going over to see them at the congregation last weekend, brought all my warp9, JNS farkles off them 18 months back all quality , I will hit them up as I see them as the best option for Procycle products for OZ, keepin it local. Rode a KTM with a hydraulic clutch yesterday liked it, think i'll go that way (not KTM) clutch clutch.
  2. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    Note that the only real benefit of a hydraulic clutch is that its self adjusting. Beyond that its not inherently an easier pull. The pull is about levers, and hydraulics are just another way of applying leverage.
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  3. TRTN

    TRTN Adventurer

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    Exactly this happened to me - Oxford heated grip rotated into the way of the clutch lever. 'full squeeze' wouldn't fully disengage the clutch - just enough to not notice it when stopped at the lights. The result after a few hundred km was a burned outer plate and (possibly only partly to blame on the clutch) some metal bits coming off the gear teeth that ended up on the magnetic oil drain plug. It certainly didn't make for smooth gear changes all the time, which i blamed on an oil change overdue. Little things aye?
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  4. leighwgold

    leighwgold BA & PHD of BS

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    Uncle Gra what gearing were you running?
  5. ninja97

    ninja97 Been here awhile

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    I found with my clutch what helps it work better is I run the cable across and down between the speedo and triple clamp.

    With flatter bars and less pull back it makes the cable straighter with less of a kink in it as opposed to the standard set up with the cable running on th left of the speedo.

    I find it works good, I have a DRZ shorty lever and have no problems with 2 fingers to pull in the lever, and I do it a shit load every day in traffic.
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  6. 0405canvet

    0405canvet Been here awhile

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    Put a Ballard's easy pull on my bike, worked great.

    Just tuned a carb for an inmate. He just got back from a long ride, to the Congregation I think, and his carb was Filthy inside the vacuum cover!! He has one of those trick vacuum cloth filters......THEY DONT WORK!!!! You guys need to tell K&N or Procycle that the filters are destroying your carby's and wearing out your top ends!!!
    Maybe a class action against them??
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  7. bigbrad

    bigbrad Been here awhile

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    Cloth filters nowhere near a foam filter for dust protection then??
  8. 0405canvet

    0405canvet Been here awhile

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    The dirt inside his carb was a surprise to him! His vacuum cover had never been off judging by the tightness of the screws. He was just trying to do the right thing by buying a "better" filter! They need to STOP selling them!!
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  9. UncleGra

    UncleGra Road Grime

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    I' ll stop what I'm doing and I'll go out in the cold and rain and wheel the bike into the shed and jack it up, take the sprocket cover of and count the teeth and count the teeth on the back wheel, just for you..stand by..
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  10. UncleGra

    UncleGra Road Grime

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    :gerg...14 / 41
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  11. motolab

    motolab Long timer

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    It's been common knowledge for decades that K&N filters don't filter very well and should not be used in a dirt application.

    That said, dust from a worn slide guide and/or slide (looks like grey goop/paste) should not be confused with dirt from an external source (there may be one or the other or both depending on miles, filtration, lift hole area and where the bike was ridden).

    Also, no tuning should be performed until worn items are replaced.

    Regards,

    Derek
  12. motolab

    motolab Long timer

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    No, and if fact the Uni UP-123 foam filter doesn't filter all that well either, even when properly oiled. The problem is that the layer of foam between the layers of wire mesh is too thin, and that the ppi (pores per inch) are too few. A foam sleeve can be added to an existing Uni (see http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/the-bst-40-bible.347184/page-119#post-28147628), or you can replace it with a non-pleated foam breather filter (see http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/the-bst-40-bible.347184/page-130#post-30339703).

    Regards,

    Derek
  13. motolab

    motolab Long timer

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    Don't forget that hydraulic does eliminate cable friction.

    Regards,

    Derek
  14. Precis

    Precis Maladroit malcontent

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    Way cheaper to merely replace the cable, or better still,keep it properly lubricated.
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  15. 0405canvet

    0405canvet Been here awhile

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    Ballard's Pivot Assist clutch lever, 40% easier pull! $39.95.
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  16. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    easier pull and more travel, no free lunch....
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  17. Lupine128

    Lupine128 That's MR Band Aid!

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    The number of times I've serviced a bike (one of the things I do is flush the clutch cable with a silicon spray, remove and grease the pivot, and lube the clevis and lever end nipple) and had guys trap fingers because of reduced cable drag. It's one of my favorite things to watch.
    Use a good quality twin screw cable luber, a very fine silicon spray with good pressure and keep going until it all runs clear.
    DO NOT use anything other than silicon spray unless you absolutely know that it won't swell the the linings and remember that a lot of road and some dual sport bikes use coated inners than can be completely rooted by your ham fisted attempts at maintenance. Just ask the guy I had in last week who used a well known commercial cable spray on his strom and had it all turn to poo.
    Also have a look at the adjuster with the lever pulled in. Is the cable dragging against the adjuster? Would it slide more freely if the slot was pointed towards you as you sat on the bike? On about 3/4 of the bikes I work on it makes a noticeable difference and it's how I try to set all the adjusters I work on.
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  18. Lupine128

    Lupine128 That's MR Band Aid!

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    And whilst I'm waffling on about non random shite on this thread, grab the old air filter you have on your spares bench. The slightly shitty one you were kind of thinking of tossing but thought you'd get a couple of more uses out of. Now cut that fucker up and make proper foams for the carby. And then service the damn things on the same schedule you should be doing the air filter on. Not the schedule many of you actually service them on.
    Sigh.
    Sorry.
    It's been a long week.
  19. fayeslane

    fayeslane Rankest of amateurs

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    +1 for silicon spray
  20. Lupine128

    Lupine128 That's MR Band Aid!

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    It's funny. I've got about 20 different types of spray lube at work. Everything from super lightweight contact oil up to a spray grease originally designed for track tread sprockets, and at least 7 of them are different types of silicon spray, not including the 3 different pump packs.
    You just can't beat the stuff for good non clogging, rubber safe lube. I've got a favorite that I use for cush rubbers when I do tyre changes as well. It always amazes me how often people forget to clean and lube those things. Hell, half the people don't even bother pulling out and cleaning and lubing their axles so it probably shouldn't amaze me at all.

    Edit.
    Trying to remember who posted a picture on here somewhere that showed their collection of silicone sprays. That was a nice picture. Or maybe I just think that because it's been a long week and I'm sleep deprived.
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