P.E.I. or New Foundland?

Discussion in 'Canada' started by hammerhoot, Sep 3, 2012.

  1. dresda

    dresda shut up and RIDE!

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    We've been over twice - I recommend taking the ferry to Port aux Basques in the late part of the day and stay at a hotel in PAB. If you do the night crossing GET A CABIN. Otherwise you end up with no sleep and nobody to talk to since they are all asleep in the cabins. Most boring night of my life.

    The evening trip means you can get in a good day of riding to PAB, finish in ferry parking lot, (buy a sandwich in the Subway just outside the hole in the fence because the food on board was dismal when we crossed) then spend a happy evening chatting to people, arriving in PAB late in the evening, just in time to go to sleep.

    Also TAKE A FOLDING UMBRELLA so when you spend two hours waiting in the rain to board the ferry you can stay a bit drier. :deal
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  3. dresda

    dresda shut up and RIDE!

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    Yeah, just because the expected departure time is say, 7:23pm doesn't mean you will even be on board by then since we are dealing with a ship and weather etc.

    Its not like an inland river ferry where the ship arrives, the cars get off, new cars get on and it leaves. Things seem very unhurried and relaxed and nothing at all seems to happen then they start waving people to board and everyone gets on and ties the vehicles down then you go upstairs and bag a comfy seat by the window and you can wait and wait and wait.
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  4. csisfun

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    How many days in advance do you people think is necessary to book a ferry from North Sydney to Port-aux-Basque in order to get a spot?
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  5. JimmieA

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    The latest I have heard is the way over isn't the issue, it is the way home. Labour dispute, unhappy workers sort of thing. People have been stranded over there for days. Not so much of an issue on a motor bike but larger vehicles.
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  6. bdsaint13

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    Must sees in NFLD?
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  7. dresda

    dresda shut up and RIDE!

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    Where should I start!

    eta: Its worth a trip out to Rose Blanche. The thing about Newfoundland is that the scenery changes dramatically every 100kms or so. Its a really interesting road.

    Cape St George, that penninsula south of Cornerbrook, you go through Stephenville to there there. Really beautiful. The Inn on the Cape is a wonderful B&B.

    The Tablelands. Bonne Bay Road - The south shore of the river that runs through Gros Morne Park is spectacular - goes through the tablelands and ends in Trout River. There's a reasonable motel there and an excellent restaurant. And if you continue through there and go down the gravel roads the scenery continues to be spectacular. Not a loop though, you have to go out the way you came.

    Grose Morne Park.

    The north penninsula gets a bit boring after you turn right and start heading north again. Only go up there if you have TONS of time. We turned around at Daniel's Harbour.

    Fogo Island, we stayed at Diane's Efficiency Units. A full 2 bedroom apartment with views in three directions and laundry facilities. Highly recommended.

    Twillingate if you don't have time to go to Fogo.

    The Bona Vista Penninsula. We stayed at the Sherwood Suites in Port Rexton (more 2 bedroom apartments, or motel rooms if you want). Beautiful scenery, close to the historic Trinity, good access to the fantastic boat tour of the abandoned outports - Rugged Beauty Boat tours. Really worth the time.

    A trip around the Avalon Penninsula is great fun and St John's is gorgeous.

    We plan to go back this year (our third trip there!!) and visit the Burin Penninsula, can't wait to get there.

    ITS ALL GOOD!

    (Well, the Baie Verte wasn't worth the three days we spent there but it was still fun).
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  8. JimmieA

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    The previous poster talked about Grose Morne National Park. The ride to it on the main road is like going through the Rockies but with ocean views thrown in. This is from Deer Lake to Rocky Harbour. In Rocky Harbour there is a hike up the Grose Morne Mountain which is nice, not that hard, there is also a boat trip in Bonne Bay Pond that is nice. Best to make reservations before you go, it is a hike to get to the boat. There is the Viking settlement way north at St. Anthony a half day ride at least. You could go across on the ferry to Labrador and make a half day return trip up the coast if you wanted. There can be ice bergs there and whales by the dozens at the right time of the year, when the Caplin are running. The Labrador road is paved to Red Bay. From Red Bay it is about 450 Km (could be more I forget) of gravel up the Trans Labrador Highway to Happy Valley/Goose Bay. I'm not recommending this trip to you but it is there if you wanted it. This is a new road only opened in the last 4 or so years. Never was a road there before that. This is totally remote country, no one lives there.
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  9. Maggot12

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    Lots of good info so far, i'll add, that once you get towards the Avalon Peninsula go south on hwy 90. Its a beautiful winding coastal drive that'll put you in the middle of a caribou herd, and the drive will bring you north into St. John's. Youll want to stop a few times for pics, so allow most of the day for this trek.
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  10. kelsow

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    PEI is nice. That's all I'll say.
    Newfoundland is AMAZING!

    Don't forget Port Au Port Peninsula as it has lots to see and doesn't take a lot of time.
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  11. dresda

    dresda shut up and RIDE!

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    That penninsula is beautiful.

    Don't try to ride a bike out to that long skinny tip of land on the north though. Emmbeedee thought we'd do it and found that the large round beach rock is like riding on ball bearings. We were 2-up on his mighty 1150GS that day. Then someone told us about silly mainlanders getting stuck out on these points when the tide comes in. :deal
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  12. JimmieA

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    I think it is safe to say most of the out ports are really nice. I remember my wife took me to her brothers house at night. I woke up to an astounding view from their house. I will never forget that. It was just normal to them but outstanding for me. The house was perched on the side of a rock in a little fishing village. The place is called Nippers Harbour.
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  13. bdsaint13

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    thank you all...all good advice. We will prob be staying away from east coast, seems to be the busiest. Anymore advice on the ferries?
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  14. dresda

    dresda shut up and RIDE!

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    Busy is a relative term. If you are thinking in terms of Lunenberg, NS, or any other tourist trap that is swarming with tourists.... you won't find that in Newfoundland. Nowhere is 'busy' the way a mainlander thinks of busy.

    On our first trip we started seeking out the 'tourist' places simply to find somewhere to eat and a choice of more than one restaurant. So just put that worry right out of your mind!

    As for the ferry - some might tell you to bring your own tie-downs. Not necessary, they have excellent ones on board.

    Make your reservation early, maybe even months in advance, especially if you want a cabin. And, if they are out of cabins, ask to be on the waiting list. We lucked out on our trip back last time and got a cabin when we checked in.

    And bring something to do - there are no magazines or newspapers lying around and no entertainment.
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    Only thing I might to the ferry tie-down statement above is once in a while they do run out of their version of soft-ties. DAMHIK. Next Time I'll have my own and prolly won't need them. Depending on your bike this may not be an issue.

    As for entertainment, internet onboard can also be overloaded to the point of it not really functioning.

    St. John's, the largest city on NFL isn't 'busy' so that'll give you an idea of the rest of it. In fact, I'd make it a point to spend some time in that area if you can. Lots-0-cool stuff around there.
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  16. Klay

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    Lunenberg? It is indeed all relative, it seems like Lunenberg is deserted compared to places like Bar Harbor in Maine and so on. :lol3

    To the OP, Newfoundland is the place to go, by a wide margin. PEI is just a short detour on the way.
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  17. bdsaint13

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    sounds good, thanks again...
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  18. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    You really need to get to the East side. Signal Hill in St. John's is a must on a sunny day. The coast around Conception Bay (where I grew up) is also a great highlands type ride with lots of twisties, fantastic views and good pavement. You'll pass through little towns with just 50-200 occupants.

    As fas as NFLD being busy :poser Sorry.

    There will be 25 other people on Signal Hill when you're there, and while you're riding Conception Bay, The Burin or the Southern Peninsula South of St. John's, you'll see another vehicle every minute or two.

    Be sure to eat some road side fish and chips, doesn't matter where.

    We (Wife and I are both from the Carbonear area), were there all of Aug last yr. Only rained twice, mid 20s C most days, down around 15-20 at night.

    Wife and kids want to go back this summer, maybe late july to mid-late aug. If you need help with something let me know.
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  19. FLARider1

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    Thanks to OP for the thread start and to all for the input. Two bikes, both two up, heading to Saint Anthony on August 2nd from Homestead, FL. Riding to Orlando (Sanford actually) Taking the auto-train up to Lorton, VA just outside DC and then continue riding up. We will be pretty much all slab until we cross to Canada due to time constraints.

    Current plan is ride across PEI in transit towards North Sydney. Travel times puts us in North Sydney to catch a 10am ferry. Later afternoon/evening in PAB and then the next day just over to Rocky Harbor. Next is to Saint Anthonys for a two night stay. Back to Deer Lake for a night and then down to PAB and the ferry back. Of course by then its haul ass back south, with another ride on the train, since we all have to be back to work on Aug 20th. Each day of riding on the Rock is like 200-240 miles and we all don't mind taking 12 hours to cover that, so we should get in some good sight seeing. Wish we had longer, but so much to do, so little vacation!!!
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  20. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    + whatever number we're at for Newfoundland. Can't say I've ever had a bad time on the Rock, even when I got into an argument with some big dumb bastard down on George street. He was just there staring at me all big and moose like...ah damn it's coming together now, it was a moose. :lol3 :freaky
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