Panoche/Tumey Hills - before April 15th

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by meat popsicle, Mar 22, 2010.

  1. osakibill

    osakibill '08 KLR-650

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    OK... sounds good to me! Chance to try out some of my new Farkels.

    Will be there Friday afternoon. Anybody thought about camping on the BLM lands? Apparently that is fine as long as you are close to the road.
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  2. kaia

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    i don't mean to burst anyone's bubbles, but that's what i thought too... until i talked to a BLM ranger coming out of the panoche hills area just over a month ago. the "policy" is all of those lands in that area that are BLM controlled are 4x4 only. no motorcycles, no quads. doesn't matter that your bike is street legal and / or plated, they don't care. not only that, but the ranger(s) who patrol the area will give you a hefty fine if they catch anyone on motorcycles on BLM land.

    apparently, in the past few years, there has been a rash of dirtbikes & quads going "off-trail" and ripping up the area, and the BLM is getting harsher on it's penalties because of it. one thing to note... from the same ranger:
    take that as you will. if you do go riding up there (it was beautiful a few weeks ago, even looking at it from panoche road... we didn't dare try to go in after speaking to the ranger), be safe and be on the lookout for the rangers. don't diverge from the roads, and play dumb if you have to. they will get more angry if you're making trails, or even riding on what you think is a trail. if it doesn't have 4x4 tracks on it, then it's not an official BLM trail. as a heads up, they drive relatively new Jeep Rubicon's. :evil


    note: that water crossing on panoche road was about a foot deep, mid feb, looking pretty much the same as it does in that photo posted earlier. it was so much fun that we had to go across multiple times!
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  3. meat popsicle

    meat popsicle Ignostic

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    I don't know you, so I can't call B.S., and emailed Rick Cooper (BLM) for confirmation on this issue. As I stated above I have been told by the Hollister office any plated vehicle, but so we can move beyond "he said, she said" I'll post up Rick's response when it comes (hopefully before Friday... ).
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  4. meat popsicle

    meat popsicle Ignostic

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    Mercey Hot Springs is right across the street... literally. It is a funky place with decent rates for the accomodations. The prices have gone up a bit, but not terrible for a night ($30). The only bummer is the hot tubs are now $7/hr, but they are not big communal hot tubs - check them out before you pay.

    http://www.merceyhotsprings.com/accom.html
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  5. scottmac

    scottmac Long timer

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    I was checking the Mercey Hot Springs website.

    http://www.merceyhotsprings.com/

    It looks like the $30/person camping fee includes use of the pool
    sauna and tubs in the package.

    Each campsite comes with Water, Picnic Bench, Fire Pit (seasonal)
    and includes use of Therapeutic Hot Tubs, Sauna & Swimming Pool.
    Private Indoor Tubs are $7 additional, per person, per hour.

    I'm not sure if any of you are special enough to warrant that "extra"
    $7.00/hr for a private indoor tub.:rofl

    Hopefully they'll have firewood we purchase as its gonna be cold at night.
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  6. Mudcat

    Mudcat Unregistered

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    LOL, I’ve seen the signs but I have been going into the Tumey Hills since last fall anyway. Partly because of Meat’s and others posts; I liked getting up on top of the mountain and having lunch.
    In 05 they had the dirt portion of <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><st1:Street><st1:address>Panoche Rd</st1:address></st1:Street> posted for motorcycles. I don&#8217;t think it was legal. I mean, I could drive a Simi tractor trailer on the roads but not a licensed MC?
    Screw these people
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  7. little_twin

    little_twin Been here awhile

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    I rode panoche rd to 25 from I5 on Friday. Is that the road that is closed? It was beutiful out there, and a great ride.
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  8. Mudcat

    Mudcat Unregistered

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    No. It is being said that the Tomey Hills are closed. They were on your left as you proceed up <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><st1:Street><st1:address>Panoche Rd</st1:address></st1:Street> from I5
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  9. little_twin

    little_twin Been here awhile

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    So that would be roads leadikng into Idria? Sorry for all the questions, it is just a place I'd like to explore some more but don't want to pay a fine for doing so.
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  10. Gester

    Gester Master of my domain

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    I'll have a GPS device with me to capture our tracks and will post that up after we get back. I'm not planning to get hit with any fines, so that might limit how far I'm able to go but I'm committed to riding down there and doing some exploring.
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  11. Mudcat

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    No

    You remember the water crossing? And then the road resumed asphalt and you came to an intersection where you went to the right. If you had gone left, you would have gone right into New Idria . Well, in about 20 miles and that is where the road ends as of now. Still, it&#8217;s a fun ride

    Below is a link to a little piece on New Idria. Interesting stuff.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Idria,_California<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    meat popsicle Ignostic

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    I spoke with Rick Cooper, field manager for the BLM Hollister office on the phone. He said he would email me once he spoke with his LEO on a detail, and I will post that when received. But he told me over the phone that any vehicle with a highway license plate may enter Panoche and Tumey Hills (outside of fire season of course) and may use any of their open roads (green lines). Plated motorcycles are allowed to use the open roads, just like every other licensed vehicle.

    It should go without saying but here: any driver, either 2 or 4-wheeled, caught by one of their three LEOs anywhere else in their reserves will be ticketed. Roads not marked as open (green lines or signed) are closed and therefore off limits. There has been alot of damage by OHV (probably not just dirt bikes either) over the years and so some of these areas have been closed to all vehicles because of it. So leaving open roads is a good way to get these areas closed for all - a good way to piss off the hunters. You know the people with guns.
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  13. Odin69

    Odin69 Been here awhile

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    Hey guys, I'm going to have to pass on this. I have some family coming to visit from out of town Saturday for Easter so, no riding for me. I'd like to see some pictures if anyone is going to bring a camera?
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  14. meat popsicle

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    I found the message this morning, considered marking it as unread, and reopening it on Sunday... but I can't do that to y'all. I hear the ticket is steep and a ranger would likely write up anyone on a motorcycle.

    :baldy

    So, that is that - my apologies everyone; but in my defense I was led astray twice by the BLM employees. :bluduh I may try to fight it, but that won't do anything for this weekend, so:

    CHANGE OF PLANS? I have a buddy who still needs an adventure and the next closest place is the Carrizo Plain. Yes, its open to motorcycles.

    The Carrizo is south of Coalinga and is more like a 4 hr trip (on the fun roads) to reach it. That means it is more like a two-nighter, or a long day-trip for those a bit closer (Bob :) ). Last time I was there:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=390167
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  15. Gester

    Gester Master of my domain

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    This is most unfortunate news MP but thanks for following through on that. Better to know now than this weekend when we're out there and getting chased by rangers. :deal

    I'm up for a trip to Carrizo Plain. What's another coupla hours on the bike but some more fun? OK, slabbing it isn't as fun as offroad but riding is riding in my book. I'm still in!
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  16. scottmac

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    I've never been down there - what route do you suggest?

    25/198 to Coalinga then 33/58 to Carrizo???

    Is there a campground we can meet up at?
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  17. osakibill

    osakibill '08 KLR-650

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    I'm up to it. If we have to do two nights... that is fine too. Gester is helping me out with gear... Thanks!
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  18. Bob

    Bob Formerly H20Pumper

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    When we have gone it was 25/198 to Coalinga for gas then back to Parkfield Grade down to 46 and take Davis Rd. to Bitterwater Rd and finally Soda lake.
    (note the names of some of these roads are different on different versions of Mapsource??)
    I don't think I'm going to be able to make it.:cry
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    Bob Formerly H20Pumper

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    Definitely delete the first route!
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