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Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by Kernalpanx, Aug 7, 2013.
I really miss how the scooter is respected as a means of transportation in Europe.....
You mean this:
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Nice pic. . Cool buildings.
I lived for a while in Italy (thanks to my Uncle Sam) back when I was young. Loved the scooters there, they were everywhere. I saw young people and old people riding them. Many more of them than motorcycles. We sent my youngest to Europe for his graduation present from high school (before starting college). I told him to watch out and see if he could spot any Vespas while he was there. He returned home laughing and told me that he spotted one before he got out of the airport. He even brought me a picture he took of a parking lot full of Vespas
Scooters are finally catching on here in the good old U.S.A. it just took us a lot longer to "discover" them.
Doug in Kentucky
My wife and I took a trip to France last November (Thanksgiving week). I too was impressed by the number of scooters and small displacement bikes. You can easily spot an RER/Metro station just by the number of scoots/bikes parked in the immediate vicinity. Also, it was fun to watch the filtering and lane splitting, stop light drag races galore.
The one thing that I think would make commuting, on a scooter, more attractive to Americans cannot be found here; the skirt. Both Tucano Urbano and Bagster make a skirt that protects the rider, from the waist down, from the elements. When you're off the scoot, the skirt zips to keep the seat and step-thru area dry. I can't tell you the number of nicely dressed women I saw that rode a scoot. They stay clean and relatively dry, as does their ride. It's not particularly "manly" but it caters to a certain clientele.
I spent last semester abroad in Germany, and got to do some traveling. It was definitely interesting to see 2 wheeled vehicles used as a primary method of transport on a much larger scale. Also interesting were the perceived differences in riding culture/bike choices. For example, the cities in Italy I visited (Milan, Florence, Rome) had hordes of scoots, but little in the way of, for lack of a better term, "real motorcycles". Paris on the other hand, while still teeming with scooters, had many high-po naked bikes, and the occasional cruiser or vintage bike.
Just another side street in Florence, Italy
In the first pic, see how many big ugly Piaggio maxiscoot bums there are?
(I ride an X8.......).
I'm not an individual after all dammit!
Sorry, but I'm picturing the guy in the cage (far right of photo) trying to back out of his parking spot and bumping the first scooter over, which then starts a domino line. :eek1 But, I forgot, Europeans know how to drive cars.
I was stationed in Germany for 3 years (2000-2003) and loved seeing all the scooters and motorcycles in Europe. Smart move with all the traffic and shortage of parking.
My wife and I were in Paris less than 2 weeks ago and we loved it! We both dreamed of having a Vespa (like so many we saw). That would be just about perfect. Now if only we could afford the Paris lifestyle...
We saw this:
Not really a car because it's a one (two if you really squeeze yourself behind the driver) vehicle. They are 100% electric and totally cool if you ask me.
note the business clothes, top case and big ass ugly full windshield....
Americans should be aware that for most people in Europe scooters are the modern equivalents of mules, the most convenient least expensive way to get around crowded cities. I grew up in Italy and when I go back I don't see many scooter enthusiasts compared to twist and go commuters seeking convenience.
Shifty Vespas rule! Occasionally...
There are some enthusiasts around even in a small provincial town like Terni in central Italy.
But modern scooters outnumber them
The one thing that strikes me from those photos is the large number of scooters with big wheels as opposed to the small wheel traditional Vespas ect.
Well, that's the trick, isn't it?
They simply have to offer a better ride than the 12"/13" wheeled scoots. I'm pretty sure a lot of my commute would be much more smooth, if the wheels on my Reflex were 14" (like the PCX150) or 15". My DR650 is much more smooth, in comparison (but that's apples to oranges).
Quit posting pics of Paris and Florence ! I haven't been to Paris in about two years now, and I'm experiencing withdrawal; Florence, even longer. One reason scoots succeed in Europe has to do with the fact that Europeans actually live in the cities. Most Americans just commute to the cities. There are, of course, exceptions, but not so many. I have also noticed that Paris has a lot of 650 + size bikes. I've seen a lot of older BMW K75 and K100's there.
Hey, I've only been back for 4 months, and am experiencing withdrawals. The travel bug has bit hard..
You're telling me! I've only been back for a week and I miss it terribly. The weather was pretty awesome this time around and helped make our trip even better.
I agree. My DR650 has suspension scooters can only dream about.
These are recent photos made between July 1st and July 20th on my solo motorcycle trip through France and Italy.
Vespa Scooteristas showing off in Mondovi, Italy.
Motorcycle/Scooter parking in Genoa.
Piazza Michelangelo, Firenze (Florence).
Florence, motorcycle/scooter parking:
I also have some older pictures from Paris, 2008:
Bunch of cool pics!
I wish scooters would catch on like that in the US.