Parker Brothers

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Mimic, Feb 16, 2013.

  1. TonyT

    TonyT Been here awhile

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    Sorry to hear about Parker Bros. as well. It's been many years since I dealt with them, but they were always a shop I looked forward to going to.
    The world has changed forever for retailers. Even giants like Best Buy are suffering when people go into their stores, check out the merchandise on the shelf and then order it over the Internet with their smartphone right in the store.
    When you're dealing with importers who refuse to recognize the new reality, you're doubly screwed.
    Have you looked around shopping malls lately? Nothing but clothes, mostly for females, and home goods, again, mostly for women to shop. Most of the more specialized stores are either gone or going, because people buy that stuff over the Internet now.
    Cheers,
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  2. NaeKid

    NaeKid Ancient member, eh?

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    Well said! :clap


    Just to add to that - I have been turned away from places that I have tried to spend my money at locally because of "we don't carry that product" or if I bring them a print-out from the web of what I need with the all the details they tell that they can't even get those parts for the same price through PartsCanada.

    If those dealers could or would allow potential customers to bring their own parts in and they install them - they get the service-money, not marked-up money on the parts - but - that could mean the difference between making-it and breaking-it.
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  3. Dan Alexander

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    I need some pivot bearings for the GS and after checking Max's fiche I called Ottawa's BMW dealer and the price is the same. I ordered from here.

    That should be possible all the time now as MC parts don't have duty and $$ is on par :deal

    There are no excuses for the gouging we usually take. I think the dealers need to boycot Parts Canada and Motovan and I'll support them with grey market purchases till the big shots wake up :deal :deal
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  4. Mr. Canoehead

    Mr. Canoehead Taste Gunnels!

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    +100 - Parts Canada and Motovan are the reason people cross border shop, not the local dealers. The dealers pay the price. I'm sure we would all pay an extra 10% to support the local guy but 25%?

    Sorry to hear about Parker Brothers - I bought stuff from them when I lived in the big smoke. It's kind of ironic that Joe Rocket came out of Parker Bros and now JR is heavily cross border shopped and that's why they are shutting down.

    We were at the Calgary Motorcycle Show last year, inmate Grizzler is checking out the Neotech helmet. He waves over the Parts Canada guy and says, "How come I can buy this helmet for $200 less out of the US?". The Parts Canada guy just gives him a dirty look and walks away. Didn't even bother to answer.
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  5. shipwrek12001

    shipwrek12001 Shipwrek

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    You should of demanded the answer to why prices are higher...

    I don't understand, why do dealers have to deal with Part Can/ Motvan, can they not shop for there own aftermarket suppliers?
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  6. Drif10

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    Market protection clauses giving exclusive area rights to them.

    Aftermarket manufacturers will sign a distribution deal with national importers as a way to sell their product in that market, while leaving the importation work to the locals.

    An outdated way to do business in the internet marketplace, for sure.
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  7. shipwrek12001

    shipwrek12001 Shipwrek

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    is there anything stopping a dealer from making deals with cross border dealers.. i.e ktmtwins , rally raid uk, safari, au.... list goes on?
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  8. Drif10

    Drif10 Accredited Jackass

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    Got this from an industry guy I know who would rather remain anonymous, but is okay with my posting it.

    His words:

    "I won't say this in public but the problem with the parts canada pricing is due to the preferred or volume discounts the give the dealers. All accessory companies in Canada give these discounts, some up to 25% futher of dealer cost. Thats built into the retail price. If all the companies said screw the discount, the retail would be on par with the US. This practice in the states is a 5% to 10% discount.
    Dealer are poor sales people, so they discount stuff. The volume discount help crappy dealer stay afloat and make pricing high for all."
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  9. StepOnIt

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    I had my bike repaired last year at a local shop (went under last spring) and could not believe the pricing he was giving me. He said the same thing that where I get my parts from. I showed him a web site (cheap cycle) and even he could not believe the difference, cheaper then his cost. I thought I could just buy the parts and bring them to him and he could install them and mark them up. It was an insurance job so no go.
    But why couldn't the owner just order over the boarder for himself and put those parts in stock and use them etc... example 08 690 speedo retail was around $580 cost close to $500 cheap cycle $300. Even after duty mark up etc...still could have sold it for 450 and made more money.
    Just my nickle of thoughts
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  10. shipwrek12001

    shipwrek12001 Shipwrek

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    :D :D :lol3 :lol3 :poser :poser :knary :knary :lol3 :lol3 :poser :knary:knary oh my stomach hurts....:D


    oh I mean sorry to hear that!!
    a flip over two yrs ago, watered out last year... what is up for this year?:freaky

    local dealer has no fear of going under with you around... LOL





    just teasen:1drink
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  11. Dru

    Dru Hardly an Adventurer

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    Parker Bros was a great shop. Dave and Jill are the real deal. Glenn is one awesome dude too. He went way out of his way to drop off some moto mags when I was out of action with a shattered arm...

    I wish all of them the best. I've no idea how tough it must be to go head to head with the online stuff or cross border shopping...
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  12. Vikingtazz

    Vikingtazz Will ride for food.

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    Parts Canada and Motovan have the wholesale market tied up in Canada.
    That means if you want to be a retailer, you buy from them.

    I have been told by those much more knowledgeable than myself, that they are both owned by the same company - disclaimer: I do not know if this is true or not.

    Well, that's just what you call good business.
    It's the kind of thing any successful minded business would love to accomplish.

    So, imagine you are a retailer.
    You have to buy your goods from the wholesaler who represents your area, because they have business agreements with the suppliers and manufacturers.
    Retailers are not stupid, they are just not able to purchase their products from online retailers the same way consumers can.
    They could probably "get away with it" for a short time, but ultimately the online retailers would notice and be required to stop; they also have agreements with suppliers and manufacturers.
    They would not wish to risk losing their suppliers.

    It does no good to demonize cross border shoppers.
    The buying public will always try to get the most value for their hard-earned money, and money has no conscience.
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  13. kruzuki

    kruzuki Gear in the Machine

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    I can't see how the mom-and-pop specialty store business model could work these days.

    The economy has taken a huge bite out of everybody's disposible income, or we think twice before spending it very carefully. Which means getting the lowest price possible, wherever it may be.

    Personally, I can't remeber how many times I've needed something that had to be ordered, had to wait 2 weeks, then make a trip to the shop to pick it up.

    Why wouldn't I just sit at home, press a few buttons on my computer & voila! Found what I need, for less than what I can get it for here, it's in stock now, and it's delivered right to my door in a few days.
    It's the modern way of doing business. Don't blame the customers.

    It's sad to see this happening, but it's the way things are going.
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  14. StepOnIt

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    Ya me and the bike did some cartwheeling together but I did not sink her last summer. I came so close once but that does not count.
    The dealer ( repair shop ) still owes me parts that were taken off my bike and never returned to me.
    now it is at Mission and will see how that goes.


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  15. shipwrek12001

    shipwrek12001 Shipwrek

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    When you said this I thought you meant you put your bike under last year

    opps..:D
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  16. TE 450 Pilot

    TE 450 Pilot Bike Collector

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    There is some shops that buy from the USA and do their own importing. At one point they < local shop > had the best prices around but as of late they have moved their pricing more in line and increased their profits. This seams like the way to go from a business stand point.
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  17. Weldit

    Weldit Been here awhile

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    the main reason I ride with him - can't pay for entertainment like this

    yell " Give 'er" - and stand back and watch the show ! :lol3
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  18. StepOnIt

    StepOnIt Assitoner

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    All Good when it not you :rofl
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  19. Big Toe

    Big Toe Been here awhile

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    Problem with that is one day when we have a flat and need a tube there will be no or very local bike shops. Don't get me wrong I like to save money too but we need our local bike shops.
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  20. Waterboiler

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    I feel sorry for the local guys since at one time or another we all look to them for advice/parts and service.

    I suspect the internet is mostly to blame. We find out about stuff and then want it - we also know what it should cost. We then go into a local shop and see a ( at times much ) higher price. Human nature tends to always look for a 'deal'

    I have no problem paying a premium to a local vendor to save the hassles of internet shopping. The probelm is stock and availability, in general smaller vendors have little stock.

    As an example I was looking for a pinlock insert for a Shoei RF1100, not a rare or expensive item. Guess what ? Nobody local ( went to about 10 shops ) had one. One shop said they would order it for me - great ! That was last July, still not in :( Guess what - ordered it online - got it in 4 days.

    On the positive side, I had resigned to having to order and wait quite some time for some rather speciality frakles. Went to a local vendor and they had quite a few of the items - the missing parts they had to me by the end of the week - so it can be done. Maybe that was due to me shopping in the middle of the winter :)
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