Pass-ive agggressive

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by ozmoses, Aug 9, 2013.

  1. ozmoses

    ozmoses ...

    Jul 3, 2009
    (appropriate sub-forum?)

    Went for an evening ride last night, rural area w/ light traffic, nice warm night-why not? Time to smell the roses and enjoy the passing scenery-a joy ride.

    I had a detailed write up of the ride but have decided for the TL/DR version instead.

    Lately, I notice people don't like to be passed. Two separate instances last night I passed, in a leisurely manner*, cars traveling well below posted limits of 35-55 in designated passing zones; both times cars accelerate and get on my ass.

    *To define leisurely: beginning 2+ car lengths back, moderate acceleration on an Airhead, resume lane 2+ car lengths ahead.

    In fairness, I've certainly noticed this trend while driving as well- motorist tootling along is passed, seemingly takes offense and now tailgates.

    What's the deal here? How do you handle it, esp on a bike?

    Generally, I'll just hit the throttle and go, conditions permitting; but what if they don't?
  2. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

    Mar 31, 2004
    Yup, I've noticed a lot more of this going around. I think a lot of it is there are just a ton more distracted drivers. They're sitting there futzing with their phones, you pass them they look up and realize they are going stupid slow and speed up.
  3. SloMo228

    SloMo228 World Class Cheapass

    Sep 22, 2012
    SE Michigan
    This is what I think is going on most of the time too. I know there are probably some asshats out there who are actually getting pissed off and tailgating, but I have to think that most are probably just distracted and didn't realize they were going so slow.

    Makes me wish people would use their cruise control more. Seems like very few actually do.
  4. C/1/509

    C/1/509 Why?

    Jul 21, 2006
    Yeah, it's happens for a variety of reason I think. Bottom line for me at least, I don't want to get into a pissing contest. Pass quickly and assertively and then maintain the speed you want. If they decide to pass you again, let them. Don't ride crazy and if they do, create space between you.
  5. orangebear

    orangebear Long timer

    Aug 12, 2010
    dumfrie scotland
    In a car I just slow suddenly and then carry on my way normally make them stop it. Or on a bike speed up and if I need to turn off.
  6. scottrnelson

    scottrnelson Team Orange

    Apr 3, 2006
    Pleasanton, CA
    It is different in different states and even in different parts of some of the larger states.

    The only thing I really notice in Northern California is that some people, who I'm sure are driving along mindlessly, will tend to match speed with you if you creep up on them with the cruise control on. I refuse to stay right next to anybody for very long, so I'll either speed up or slow down to get away from them, but I'm convinced that nearly all of them are not doing it on purpose and probably don't even realize that they're doing it.

    I'm more annoyed when someone comes up behind me at a faster speed, gets in front, then slows down. I don't give them a second chance to get around me if they do that.

    Don't assume most people do these things on purpose if you can blame it on being unaware - clueless drivers.
  7. Falcon86

    Falcon86 I just work here.

    Jul 22, 2010
    Virginia Beach, VA/Slaty Fork, WV
    Rubbin's racin'.
  8. toy4fun

    toy4fun GET out of the way

    Feb 21, 2011
    Beautiful downtown Roy, WA
    The ones that get the maddest!!! You are sitting at the light and the person in the car in front starts texting or inventoring the glove compartment or just zones out because there attention span is shorter than the light cycle. The light changes and they sit, I don't honk I just go around. Boy do they get dare you make me look inattentive (stupid) kind of stuff.:eek1
  9. Dan-M

    Dan-M Long timer

    Aug 21, 2007
    US 550 & I-25
    I've seen it so many times just as you describe and the first thing I think is "WTF? Now you are in a hurry?"

    I think as SloMo said, usually they are not paying attention to speed, maybe distracted by something else. When you pass they wake up and pick up speed. You are now the pace vehicle. If they were distracted, you probably don't want them behind you anyway. Get on the gas and put some space between you before settling into your cruise speed.
  10. SilkMoneyLove

    SilkMoneyLove Long timer

    Nov 15, 2007
    If it is just a cruise type ride and I pass someone that appears to be pissed about it, I will take a different road when I get to a big intersection. If they follow me, and I mean on purpose on my ass, if they appear agitated I roll on the speed. If they just happen to take the same road, I turn at the next big intersection and get back to my original planned route.

    I say Big Intersection because out by me there are smaller local roads that don't have good turn lanes. I hate it when people pass me just to slow down and turn and therefor, I don't do that to others.

    It is just a cruise, not a contest for me. I don't flip the bird or any BS.

    Now, if someone really turns up the heat and we hit tripple digits (out here, 100+ is a big no no), I work on a plan to evade. That means getting to a road i know they can't handle and putting in some work to hustle the bike.

    Sometimes people just like to race a bike but you can tell the difference when someone is after you or not.
  11. shakeybone

    shakeybone Long timer

    Dec 19, 2010
    what I get is they are going 5 to 10 mph under the speed limit, you try to pass and they speed up, so you go faster and they go faster so I pull in behind them,( now they are going fast enough) and they slow down.
  12. SkiFastBadly

    SkiFastBadly A beer? Yes, please

    Mar 28, 2007
    Woodinville, WA
    I noticed this last weekend as I was driving across WA state. I got behind a couple of cars going just at the limit through some pretty curvy/hilly 'no passing' country. Then I got to a truck passing lane, they all sped up when I tried to pass. When the passing lane ended, they slowed down again. This happened on several occasions.......

  13. FJ Fun

    FJ Fun Grouchy Old Squid

    Oct 10, 2011
    Clinton, Ar......The edge of Twisty Heaven
    You have described exactly what I have come to expect from drivers in Arkansas.

  14. scottrnelson

    scottrnelson Team Orange

    Apr 3, 2006
    Pleasanton, CA
    Were you on some really slow bike, or some really slow cage?

    When I'm approaching a passing zone after being stuck behind somebody for a while, I make it clear that I intend to pass them by reducing my following distance from the usual two seconds down to about half a second, turn on my left turn signal, and the second the other lane starts to open up, I'm hard on the gas. Unless they weave to the left to try to block me, they're getting passed.

    Then again, I've never been one to let a solid yellow line get in the way of making a safe pass when there's room either. :D
  15. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

    Aug 19, 2008
    New(er) Mexico
    Happened to me on my way to work this morning. Very few things still really boil my blood on the road, but this is one of them!
  16. racer

    racer Long timer

    May 5, 2004
    Last week I was riding with a friend on a two lane and came up on a slow car. Was going to pass, however, the road turned to four lane just ahead, so decided to wait.

    We get to four lane and the car ahead stays in the passing lane going 5 to 10 under the limit, WTF? We are approaching and on/off ramp intersection with a traffic light. The light is green. The car starts slowing and slowing, then comes to a complete stop in the passing lane.

    So I pass on the right, my buddy passes on the left. Guess what? The bitch is texting.

    As far as the OP's ordeal, I think people that are on the phone while driving can't judge their speed and concentrate on their text or phone conversation at the same time. After you pass, then they use the speed of your vehicle as a pace car. I've seen it plenty.

    Cell phone manufacturers need to make the phones unusable if they are moving faster than five mph. That's my take.
  17. Aussijussi

    Aussijussi Long timer

    Oct 29, 2009
    Funny how some driver behaviour doesn't differ at all, no matter, on which side of the world you may be. I have noticed the fancier the car they're driving, the harder it seems to be for the driver to accept that he's been overtaken by someone, and a motorcyclist, of all things. Blokes driving sports Mercedes especially, take it very badly being passed by a trailbike.
  18. BryonLewis

    BryonLewis Been here awhile

    Feb 15, 2013
    Sacandaga Lake
    Around here it seems to be the people in pickups that try to floor it when you pass, I see it both in my car and on my bikes. You can hear the auto tranny downshift as they stomp on it. While it can be sort of annoying in the Evo, it's hilarious when I'm on the B-King. I don't know what they are thinking.
  19. WRW9751

    WRW9751 7th Day Adventurist

    Jun 6, 2011
    Ankeny Iowa
    One thing I have found is, making a decision to pass on my part. If I quickly pass I generally don't get any feed back. But if I linger, the passee has time to get pissed off. I really don't care what they are doing, I simply want out of their range. I personally don't like someone racing up behind me and blinking lights or horn, what ever. Just go around! I'll help if I can! If you want to role you go man!
  20. Bollocks

    Bollocks Farts with an Accentâ„¢

    Oct 14, 2005
    Watauga lake, 10-E-C
    we need more of this.

    NSFW Audio...bit of a tool filming it.

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