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Discussion in 'Northeast - Greater Flugistan and home of the carp' started by Skyclad, Aug 12, 2008.
Put some TKC80's on her.
I love to run knobies, But I run a pretty aressive tread (not a full knobby) on my KTM 640 and they are terrible at highway speeds (60 to 75 MPh). I cant't imagine what a knobby at 75 - 80 MPH would feel like on a huge bike (compared to KTM) like the 1200GS. maybe i'm wrong would the bigger bike tame the ride better. I see conti has a tire called twinduro is the same as TKC 80. I plan to ride highway speeds for 2-2.5 hours before I hit the fire roads for the weekend then back home on the highway for 2 - 2.5 hours at the end of the week end. During the week I'll ride less than 20 -40 miles a day around town on secondary roads. well thats enough of that, this is Tag-O-Rama not Tire-O-Rama. THanx for the help.
I've been watching this for the past day and a half. I wasn't going to bother because it was too close to home. Finally decided what the heck. Will post a new tag tomorrow. I'll try to move it westward. cyclejohn
Sign reads: NO STOPPING. You giving us bikers a bad name!
Good tag! I'm a Philly guy living in the Lehigh Valley. I knew this one would be snapped up quick. Have fun with your new tag. Plenty of historic sites in Philly and surrounding area.
The new tag:
This location is in Chester County. It's not visible in the photo, but there are 2 more helicopters behind the 2 that are here.
The American Helicopter Museum
Still just an unassuming construction site, Major League Soccer's newest team will begin playing here in 2010.
The bridge in the background should be a dead giveaway as to the physical location, but the tag is the construction site not the bridge.
**In the interest of full disclosure, I should mention that I took this photo a week ago when I was attempting to claim the Swedish Cabin tag... unfortunately Beantop beat me to that one so I'm using this photo now.
If anyone wants to be a stickler for ToR rules and call this a "file photo" then all it will get you is another picture of the same thing, and a longer time to wait for the next tag.
Why, oh why, do you folks have to make this so hard for me sometimes. I am against file photos, but it is a picture taken specifically for ToR, and you said all we would get is the same location anyway...
Unless there is major outcry, I will allow it because of those two things. If anyone has a hard spot about this, bring it up before this evening, otherwise the tag stands. If someone grabs the tag before then, it will be considered good and moved on.
However, this does not mean that file photos are going to be fair game though. To every rule there will be exceptions. This would be one of them.
NO fAIR!!! his bike is facing the wrong direction. When he got the tag he took a pic of the Drivers side and when he posted the new tag he took a pick of the Passenger side.(HA HA) He did how ever mention it was a file foto. If he hadn't someone would have piced up on the fact that the helicopter tag skies were cloud covered and in the new take the skies were only part cloudy. The rule is ride to play. maybe he should have said here is a file foto of the new tag (just to keep the game moving) and said I will ride to the tag and get an actual foto ASAP. that way the game would be moving and he still had to ride to play. If some one got the tag and moved it in the mean tyme and Copamundial did in fact get the actual foto no harm. The only thing that compicates things is if Copa didn't post an actual foto the he is disqualified and the tag would go back to the heli. then the person that got the construction foto would not be valid (because it was never a TAG) and he rode for n reason. Pretty comlicated , but the thing that got it complicted may have been Copa preceived Attitude of , if you don't like too bad. maybe we all have to think what you post sounds like and try to make them sound as though we are all trying to play by the rules and if anybody sniffles then we can deal with it. Let copa get an actual foto and let it stand. then we can All be happy. I'm not complaining but, he did admit it is a file foto and the rules say no file foto. Bla Bla Bla .
Thanx for your tyme
file photo = no tag...........pretty simple
come on gang, the rules are posted plain as day...
Copa rode to the Helicopter Museum, right? It's the construction site photo that's a few days old. He is still the tag holder, and like he said, if you disqualify the construction site photo based on 7 day old file photo status, he'll just ride there now and take it again. Why wait?
He took the photo for this purpose. It's not like he's just pulling one out of his archive.
I say play on.
The rules are that the new tag must taken on the same day (perhaps on the way to the current tag) as the current tag photo or later. Not the day before. Not the week before. A file photo is a file photo. Play by the rules. No cheating, even it's convenient and doesn't change the location you want the new tag to be at.
My $0.02 FWIW...
Make him an example and an exception, this one time. There are rules that keep the game fun and its about riding. Some games get hung up on pages of rules raking and ball busting and the game never gets anywhere. Its not on a trailer, its not from 3 years ago with a different bike.
Lambaste him with PM's and razz him at the bar but keep the damn game rolling. If he wasn't so honest you wouldn't be able to call him a "cheater"
let the 4 page onslaught of he said she said commence, or somebody get the tag and keep it rolling along.
With these kind of attitudes you are never gonna catch up to the Garden State, and you don't even have to deal with DocGonzo
Funny, I dont see anything stating the new tag must be taken on the same day as the current tag. You guys are reading into this too much. This wasnt a file photo from years, or months ago. It's a pic he specifically took for a tag in this game. His only fault was being completely honest about the pic being a week or so old. So will it make everybody happy to be absolute sticklers for the rules and make him go back to the same exact spot just to take a current photo of the construction site? What's the point?
If Skyclad wasnt reasonable, and slightly flexible with the rules, we wouldnt have all the great recent contributions (especially by the noobs) that has happened recently.
I'm not an advocate for file photos, but this clearly is a reasonable exception to the rule.
I wasn't going about this to "cheat". And I wasn't trying to be a smartass.
Plain as day if you consider that to be a "file photo", which I do (or did) not.
It's not like this is a pic I took on some road trip last summer... it was specifically taken for the purpose of this game when I was out riding to claim another tag.
#4 - File photos are NOT permitted. You gotta ride to play this game.
Um, sorry Garry you're going to have to show me that rule.
Tag 60 was placed at 11:45.
I claimed it at 16:07,
Tag 61 was placed at 16:14.
If that's not the pace at which we want this game to run then that's cool by me.
That tag has been in it's current location for 23 hours, there is absolutely no difficulty locating it because the god damned Commodore Barry bridge is right there. Today was the best riding weather in at least a week, plus it's a weekend so you can ride in the warmer part of the day without worrying about work.
Someone could have easily claimed that tag by now, instead we end up with an entire day lost arguing about stupid stuff like this.
Unfortunately I didn't see this whole debate because I was... out riding.
So yeah, if no one has picked it up by the time I get home from work tomorrow maybe I'll go out and get a new picture... of that same thing... or something else.
This should clear things up
I found this in post #11 PA Tag-O-Rama by sparkster 2008-08-14 1:36 AM
and here in post #13 PA Tag-O-RAMA by SkyClad on 2008-08-14 8:38 AM
Reply to Sparkster by Skyclad
which may be taken as...
Thanx for the sugestion,(sparkster) but we will cotinue doing the way we have been doing it.(no file photos allowed)
I didn't search real hard for a ruling an this post, but if there was a ruling it should be cut and dry. If not we will have to make a Copamundial Amendment to the file Photo rule rules.
let the Copa tag stand (since he said he will just place the same tag later), Make a specific ruling on file photo (I.e. must be taken takenno moe two day before used.) Which would be imposible to enforce. I think file foto should be out. the only way to know if you are the current tag holder is to get the existing post and repost. therfore how can you take a new Photo till you post the curent tag. A photo taken on the to or from the existing tag is not a file photo since you did ride to get it, and you are gambling that you may be bruced by takeing tyme to save tyme. therefore if you stop to kill to birds with one stone and get bruced you ultimatly faild.My theory is to get the tag and post as quick as possible. Now I know I'm "IT", I can then go place the new tag.
May be we can really complicate thing an make it a treasure hunt. We make up an official PA Tag-O-Rama object. we place the object at a location (same rules). first person to find the object is "IT" (that way we know who got there first and and they cant re-place it till the have it.) once you have the object you must place it by a certian time limt (24 HRS) or lose you turn. Get the object and Photo (of you geting the object) place the object and a get photo (of you placing the object) give clues. If some one loses a turn or object gets stolen we have to make a new object.
Man this is getting coplicated.... Just let it stand
You guys in Pa are just like the Upstate New York guys
too much talk, too little riding
That one is a very good tag, now go and get it.
If only my bike was back from the shop, they are closed today and tomorrow, I would have grabbed it myself. A 7 day old tag is not a file photo.
At the very least the bike was not in the back of a pick up truck when the photo was taken
Boy, it sure would be easy to just time stamp your damned photos, wouldn't it?
If you guys keep up this squabbling, I may just have to head down to Philly and pick up that tag. If it's the accepted tag. From this year. By the rider posting the photo. With his very own bike.
Another in a series of space/time continuum dilemmas!