perfect tent broke, how to set up lesser tent in rain

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  1. ifthis

    ifthis Been here awhile

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    4 years 100+ nights in the perfect tent.
    Ok not quit perfect tent, but when it's up in the rain,with coctail waiting.I can point and laugh at my 20k bike friends. Quenchua , a perfect tent
    Its done now, crack in pole and justb wont fit on ne bike , klr or connie.
    How do I set up a tent in the rain? Upside down? Rain fly first? Or just find away to mount an instant tent
    Not affiliated with them. But any eu member can find t fthee at any Vespa rally. Shoved fully open into any trash can.()
    Thinking next tent is the drifter 3.
    Read all reports, it only 2x my budget and should fit on eh
    t bike.
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  2. PeterW

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    Same way I do it in the dry. Or by preference , stay in a motel instead if it's really wet.

    The main thing is being able to do it FAST without the rest of your gear getting wet. So, the tent packs on top of the other gear and the gear bag IS waterproof. Haul the tent out, shut the waterproof bag, put the tent up, shake the water off the gear bag, toss inside tent to unpack the rest.

    Unless you have a double layer tent where the inner walls are all mesh it pretty much just works.

    Pete
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  3. ifthis

    ifthis Been here awhile

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    We don't plan, we pull in late. Often in dry counties. That another problem. Pulling in after dark in the rain works great with my tent. I throw it in the air its set. No water ..anything heavy keeps it nailed down.
    How do I do that with a real tent ?
    2 poles lots of mesh, it's got to get wet. Wail setting it up?
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  4. Walterxr650l

    Walterxr650l Long timer

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    Option 1

    After you set it up, you get out your towel. Use it to dry out, sop up any water inside the tent. When you have the tent dried out inside, move in your gear.

    Option 2

    Get a tarp of some kind. Set up tarp. Then set up tent underneath tarp.

    Walter
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  5. Xeraux

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    I've used this option more than once. :umph
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  6. Hootowl

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  7. PeterW

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    Don't get a tent with lots of mesh windows ?. Or spend a little more and get the one with the velcro down panels over the windows.

    It's only mesh that's a problem, the normal nylon inner is "waterproof enough" that you can get it up with the inside staying dry. They aren't up to sustained downpours alone, but a few minutes isn't a problem.

    Two of you, easy, one of you lays out the ground mat and the tent inner while the other assembles the poles, one holds a corner in place while the other clips the poles and does the other corner, repeat for the other pole. Then both of you put the fly over the top.

    It's the clever very expensive hiking tents that are a bastard and a half, you need an amazing memory, the instruction sheet, four arms and an IQ somewhere north of Einsteins to assemble those buggers.

    The low end ones are designed for idiots and go up easy ;)

    Pete
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  8. Jamie Z

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    If it's raining or forecast to rain, I've been known to sleep under a roof. :evil

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  9. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    Tarp first. Can even tie it off from the handlebars to give the luggage some rain protection as well..

    Setting up in rain is one problem, but if the ground is wet it'll eventually get thru your tent and into some of your other gear.Packing back up with wet gear will create another problem. A large tarp, say 12x12 will go a long way I keeping you dry. I'd plan for a motel after a few days of wet camping. Just to dry and freshen up the gear.
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  10. Ceri JC

    Ceri JC UK GSer

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    If you ever go anywhere it actually rains*, you really want a fly-first or better yet, a pitch-as-one tent.

    If you're carrying a tarp anyway, an 'inner-first' tent is much less of an issue. Having to carry a tarp (and having the hassle of setting one up) specifically to mitigate against the problem, however, is a bit silly.

    I have only ever owned one inner-first tent. I still have it and I do still use it occasionally, on very short trips, where it's unlikely to rain. Every tent I have bought since, however, I have simply disregarded options that were not fly-first/pitch-as-one.

    *please refrain from posting how one time you pitched your inner-first tent in a light drizzle and it wasn't wet inside by the time you got your fly on. If this is true, it wasn't properly raining.
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  11. bluzharp

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    Just get another Quechua tent. They're all over Ebay.
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  12. achtung3

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    I always bring extra large plastic bags (trash bags), I used them to hold my wet and dirty stuff inside of the tent, as soon as it is in the tent I flip them outside in, and put all the wet/dirty stuff inside and the tent is always clean and dry. Yes you are going to get the tent wet on the inside, that is when a towel comes handy and after inside of the plastic bag it goes.

    Set the tent up under some cover, a tree most likely this will avoid much of the water out, if not tree then make sure the tent is always zipped up before pitching it or keep the rain fly over it as you pitch it, practice and you will see that it becomes quite easy.

    By the way, can't you replace the broken part of your tent?
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  13. HeatXfer

    HeatXfer Bad knees

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    The Coleman 3-man "instant" tent (smallest they make) weighs in at about 9lbs, so 3x as much as the Quechua 2-man and is definitely bulkier.

    Free-standing, goes up in 25secs with two people, about 35secs with one person. Completely waterproof; Quechua is only water resistant.

    $100 from Coleman, $90 from Overstock.com

    Here's a set-up video
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  14. OneTraveller

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    As mentioned some tents, like my Marmot Limelight, can be set up with the ground cloth and rainfly first. Another option would be a single wall tent that doesn't use a separate fly, such as the Marmot Alpinist. Good single wall tents are usually in the upper price range and they don't breath as well.

    You can also string a tarp over the tent site before you pitch the tent.

    Mike
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  15. squish

    squish Out of the office.

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    This makes me miss my now departed single wall tent
    You laid it out, staking the corners, then move inside in do the poles from inside the tent, while staying mostly dry.

    tent flys suck when it comes to putting up a tent in the rain.
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  16. GSBS

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    ...and still own a MSR Velo, but for the last six years have slept in my hammock whenever physically possible.

    And during those years I've camped on average 3-4 nights a month, including a 45-day, 650-mile canoe trip last year.

    Setting up the hammock in a driving rain is far better than any tent I've seen. I simply tie off my hex-shaped fly to two trees, stake out the sides, then I have a shelter under which to hang the still dry hammock out of the weather.

    If I need to get up and go out for whatever, I've got a dry spot to put my shoes, etc. and other gear. There's no crawling into and out of the hammock as with a tent... simply stand up in my shoes and walk. In fact, the only time I have to stoop over at all is to drive in the stakes when setting up. No sleeping on the wet, soggy ground. And, no waiting for hours for it to dry in the morning after a rain or heavy dew, since it's already hanging in the air.

    I can usually set up or take down the hammock in less than three minutes. It packs small, requires no tent poles and is a fraction of the weight of the lightest of tents. And my hammock sleeps better than any bed I've ever tried. Worlds ahead of my expensive Exped Downmat on the floor of a tent. What's not to love?

    IMO, for motorcycle camping there is nothing better than a hammock (and I've tried many other systems over the years). After a few times in the hammock, I couldn't believe I'd suffered with all the hassles of tents so many years.

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  17. birdie_xx

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    Both tents that I have can be set up protecting from the rain, using just the rain fly and the floor saver. The REI Hoodoo3 and the Redverz Expedition II....

    Cheers,
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  19. Married Man

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    I just replaced my rei half dome with the rei half dome plus. My set-up in the rain is to set up the poles and stretch the rain fly over the frame. Next is the footprint to improve the stability and then I can go under the fly and attach the tent, all nice and dry. This procedure works with any tent that attaches to the poles with clips instead of sleeves. Breakdown is just the reverse. I pack my gear, then drop and roll the tent under the protection of the fly. The fly gets packed wet but it'll dry at the next set- up.
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  20. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    What......
    Carry a 9x12-to 12x12 tarp. It'll take a minute to setup but within 1/2 that time you're undercover and one can mount it high enough that the rear of the bike with luggage can be underneath. You'll then have a dry place to slowly put up your tent, change clothes, drink, then prep and eat dinner while sitting in a chair, being dry during the whole ordeal.

    The whole time your buddies will be asking where you got the tarp.
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