Perfect waterproof, warm and packable jacket

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  1. AtlasExp

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  2. Jim K.

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    Waterproof, warm, & packable are all important. In fact, I'd call them numbers 3, 4 & 5 in importance. Numbers 1 & 2 are impact & abrasion resistance. I suspect that the jacket shown is kind of short on both. (if you're wearing Kevlar & armor underneath, just ignore this response.)
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  3. SgtDuster

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    This jacket could make a good mid layer under a sturdy motorcycle jacket with the right amount of impact protection.


    But please...choose another color... :huh


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  4. keiji

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    That jacket is water resistant, not waterproof-the marketing literature only claims a durable water repellent which is not enough to stay dry on a motorcycle.
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  5. AtlasExp

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    I need jacket to wear at camping and may be as a warm layer if needed. Not as a motorcycle jacket. Any advice?
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  6. Snapper

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    I'd suggest a Goretex Paclite shell (eg, Marmot Minimalist), with a visored hood and pit-zips, and then use separate insulating layers like a lightweight Primaloft "sweater" and/or vest (eg, Patagonia Nano Puffs). All three weigh in ~ 2 lbs and will pack in the volume of about 2.5 grapefruits and leave you lots of layering options for broad temp ranges. I always use the sweater/vest combo (together, or either one separately) under my riding jacket for the chillier rides, and stuff the unused in my tankbag. These three are my traveling staples, whether by moto, train, air, etc.

    Down versions are warmer and lighter, but of course are useless if they get wet, and a PITA to wash.
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  7. AtlasExp

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    Thanks for your input! :clap
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  8. DaymienRules

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    I had trouble finding my "perfect" jacket for under the real jacket. For warm and packable, I can't beat a minimalist down shirt/jacket. I usually just carry a small down vest, it packs into nothing. Down serves another benefit: you can sleep in it and therefore bring a warmer temp (smaller) sleeping bag. For waterproof the frog toggs are onboard, to keep the down completely dry.

    When I only expect warm weather(nothing below 45 deg), it's fleece jacket with softshell shoulders/chest. Windproof enough to wear under the mesh-paneled jacket, but breathes better than the zip-in plastic liner. It doesnt pack up as small, but it dries very quickly if damp, and I look like a normal person wearing it off the bike.
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  9. HaChayalBoded

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    so you don't want it used on the bike at all? And just to hang around the campsite? Then you don't need a $200 goretex jacket.

    Hell a poncho will do.

    By the way, where in Brooklyn are ya?
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  10. JR356

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    Snapper has it right!

    Look at REI outlet,Sierra Trading Post,Campsaver and lots of other sites for discount new gear.

    Geartrade website has used gear,leftover gear at often great prices.

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    My idea is to use it on multi day trips as a destination jacket at campfire. Also good if I can use same jacket under my Klim Badlands pro as a warm layer. Need to be waterproof and packable.
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  12. AtlasExp

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    I am in Bay Ridge near Verrazano bridge.
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  13. HaChayalBoded

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    Ahh cool, I was just there. I'm just a few minutes from ya.

    Take a ride out to Campmor.

    There is also a new REI up the block from them and an EMS right next door.
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  14. AdvRich

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    +1. This is the set up I use. Gives the greatest flexibility for conditions. You'll be raining inside your insulated rain coat when the temps are too warm and the rain is coming down. I picked up two EMS Ascent pullovers on closeout for half price earlier this year. I got one sized to go over the compression jacket for riding and one for normal wear. Synthetic fill, water resistant coating for the light sprinkles, and totally stops the wind. I'm wearing it in the NEK group shot for a visual, though I think they only offer the jacket version now. Save yourself some dough too, if your raincoat is just for standing around, any good quality packable and ventable jacket will do.

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    +1 on the poncho

    use a windproof fleece for under your motorcycling jacket and for hanging around the campsite.
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  16. AtlasExp

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    Any other ideas?
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  17. VtStom

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    My jacket of choice is the EMS Storm front jacket...fits well and goes inside both my Joe Rocket armored jackets..
    Full water proof zippers and no extra bulk.... totally wind /rain proof!
    I chose this to replace my last system 3 jacket that had no hood ( this one has a hood that fits inside my helmet ) because I ride in every weather that Vermont throws at me and this is how I keep dry, I will also layer a fleece under it for warmth too :
    http://www.ems.com/product/index.js...Brand&cp=3707807.12019738.3690144&cid=1090808
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  18. achtung3

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    I've got a Goretex Jacket that is extremely warm and waterproof but not too compact when packed but if I put in a super strength zipplock bag it can be squashed pretty thin, I haven't found any jacket as warm and waterproof as that and since I wear small size it helps quite a bit. Not interested in any new jackets because I have two of these and one stays in the bike's bag.
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  19. DYNOBOB

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    I'll toss out a different option. A waterproof shell that packs small for the campfire and a heated Aerostich fleece jacket for layering. Heated jacket can make a world of difference on an unexpectedly cold ride. Mine is always on the bike I'm riding.



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  20. zeeede

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    I like the suggestions of a seperate insulating layer and waterproof shell... layering is good. I have an LL Bean Ascent Packaway Jacket:
    http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/76777
    Packs down into its own pocket when not in use... about the size of a large paperback. I use it as a layer in the cold under my motorcycle jacket or for skiing. Makes a nice around-town jacket, around camp jacket... it's great.

    I currently don't have a packable waterproof shell, but there's plent of options out there. Ponchos are great if it's just around camp, but you look like a fool walking around touristy places in one.
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