Piaggio Sportcity 250 or Kymco People s250

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  1. rjreynolds

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    correction: meant to say Aprilia Sportcity 250 or Kymco People s250

    I will be buying a 250cc scooter soon, and would like to know what you guys think.

    The two scooters that caught my eye are listed above. They are in the same price range. Which do you guys/gals recommend, as far as long term reliability and performance?
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  4. rjreynolds

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    I read 3-part interview myself, and found it compelling. However, I prefer Sportcity over Bv for styling and 15 inch wheels. Sportcity appears to be hybrid bike for touring and city traffic.

    My real question is. How well do these bikes hold up over the long run? Bv, Sportcity, People s250....

    rj
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  5. ronnath

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    from the link i posted above on my experience with the SC250.:

    to which i will add: during the two years i got a consistent 65/70 mpg.
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    no question about the city riding. mine was fine. two solid years of running errands and general fun riding. many, many 10, 15, and 20 mile jaunts. even tho an SC isn't that heavy (~325 lbs) i found the ride pretty comfortable. nice springs and big wheels combined to make a comfortable ride.

    about the touring: the longest straight shot i ever did on it was about 75 miles and a few 50 round trips. my old ass was a bit sore, but that was me, not the bike. the bike wasn't even breathing hard.
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  8. techguy

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    I have a P250. It is just about the same bike with 90%+ of the mechanicals being the same as the P250S. It has the 16 inch wheels and does great in suburban traffic situations.

    As for durability, I have over 33,000 KM on the bike and the only issue I have had, other than wear items (brakes, CVT belt...) is the muffler. It failed during an 800 mile ride I made earlier this year. Kymco's are known for being durable machines. You can see my picutres from my touring rides over the years. The Ride to RoM was an 800 mile 3-day weekend ride.

    I know many of Piaggio's larger wheeled scoots had a fuel pump issue related to the ethanol in our fuel and were subject to stalling and other problems. I don't know if it was only the China manufactured bike or it was both the Italy and China made Piaggio brands. The SportCity 250 is a mainland China made bike with Piaggio engineers at the manufacturing facility.

    I considered the SC when I was buying in 2008 but I love my Kymco. I don't regret buying it. I bought mine used and am the third owner.
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    I read your article. It's more useful to read an article from someone about a product they have owned for years rather than 3 days. Not to take anything away from the guy who wrote the 3 day jaunt article.

    On another topic, You say you own a Majesty? How has it been so far? Any major issues?

    thanks,

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    i got it a year ago this month. it's on 07 model and had 625 miles on it. the dealer where i got it is multi-line and yamaha is one of them. i wanted to get a new one, but there wasn't one in any dealer's inventory within a hundred miles or so, so i went with the low-mileage used one. the dealer actually had two of them, but the other one was a year newer but had a lot more miles on it.

    rode it into the late fall (just a week or so later, we had our first blizzard) and then stored it until this past march.)

    now, about the bike.

    it's big, heavy (nearly 500 pounds wet), and comfortable on the road. in fact it's very comfortable on my around town riding.

    storage is very good with a lot of room under the seat and two gloveboxes up front.

    it's in the faster team yamaha blue color :evil

    starts instantly and runs just fine - no flat spots thru the range.

    majestys are known for having a fairly high tip-in point and this one is no different. mine hits nearly 4500 rpm before engaging. if you're at an uphill stop sign or light, it's into the 5000s before moving off. other maj owners report the high 3's and low 4's on theirs. i honestly think i may have fried the drive belt a bit on a stupid (read: my fault) steep uphill manuver when i first got it. i've found that once well warmed up, the tip-in point is lower on the tach.

    it's a thumper, of course, so there is some vibration at lower speeds. north of 40 or so, it disappears. other owners report the same thing.

    the heavy weight and bigger motor don't help much when it comes to gas mileage. about 50. i once got nearly 60 but there were a lot of highway miles on that tank of gas. by comparison, my sportcity, and the reflex before that, were consistently in the mid 60s. both of those were 250s.

    the tank on the maj holds something over 3 gallons so i can be running all over town for a week for about 7 bucks.

    many majesty owners report swapping out the windshield for the bigger givi claiming the stock shield allows too much wind to hit them in the face. they must be wearing three quarter or half helmets because with my FF that has never been a problem. i've found the stock shield to be just fine.


    all that said, you asked how it has been so far and whether there were any major issues.

    i'm a little over 2k now and it's been fine. no major issues at all. in fact, other than the lower gas mileage than i was used to, there haven't even been any minor issues.

    wait, here's one: i have a bum left ankle and the sidestand is tucked in pretty close to the plastics, so i have to get off the bike to put it down. but that issue is uniquely mine, YMMV.
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    Thanks for the input. I think I am going to add the Majesty to my list of bikes to consider.

    I Heard that for 2011, Yamaha may redesign the Majesty? Do you know this to be true? I actually haven't heard that anywhere, other than in another forum post...


    rj
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    A buddy and I will be heading to test drive one this weekend!
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    nope, i haven't heard a thing. change comes slowly to the maj. biggest difference from 08 and beyond was removing the seperate butt pad that was on them thru 07. oh, colors of course, they change those each year.
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    You might want to check out the Kymco Downtown 300 - when they come to America this Fall. The wife and I rode two-up on a demo ride at Mid-Ohio Vintage days last weekend and it was very stable and had enough pep for two-up.
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    I look forward to it, considering I am still saving...
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  16. Cortez

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    First things first, the People 250S is a bigger scooter, and comparable to
    the Aprilia's Scarabeo, and Piaggio's Beverly in size, and the Sportcity
    (and Piaggio Carnaby/Derbi Boulevard - all the same) are a bit smaller.

    The Sportcity is probably your choice if you want a sporty (duh) scoot
    for around town and not much beyond 150 miles since it's got limited
    wind protection, and the P250S is a do-it-all 250cc, that does a lot of
    stuff well, but none great. You get bulletproof reliability with the Kymco
    which Aprilia/Piaggio can't offer on occasions, BUT, the 250cc 'quasar'
    powered ones are the most reliable, and there's no known issues for them.

    That said, the Aprilia (in EU anyways) isn't offering the 250cc anymore,
    they replaced it with the 300cc (actually 260+), and you should be aware
    that the new People is coming out as we speak which looks dramatically
    different and will be using the engine from the new Downtown 300 which
    offers 10hp more then the Piaggio/Aprilia stuff (250/300 cc quasars are
    21-22,5hp, the Kymco is 32hp).

    A lot of info to process, but you won't go wrong with either of them.

    I'd take the Sportcity if only town/spirited riding was it's use, and People
    for that AND everything else.
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  17. spooker

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    I've had a People S 250 for about 8 months now. I haven't had a single problem. I previously had a Piaggio Fly 150, but things kept breaking and after I had spent $600 in 3 months just to keep it running, I decided it wasn't for me. It also had design flaws. I've been really happy with the P S250. I'd describe it as quite upright, compared to most touring scooters which have a more reclined position (Tmax, Silverwing, Burgman, Xciting...). I regularly ride it for 16 hours straight. When I do, the only problem I get is lower back pain, since there's no backrest and I haven't found any aftermarket ones. Sometimes I use a back brace to smooth that out a little. One thing you should know about the P S 250 is that the maintenance intervals are pretty frequent--they say to change the oil every 2,000 km, since there is no oil filter, just a mesh filter screen. The only thing I wish it had was a bigger fuel tank (range is about 145 miles). I also wish Givi made an aftermarket windshield. I get 66 mpg, and I think the bike tops out around 77 mph actual. Part availability for Kymco is excellent.
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  18. cbolling

    cbolling Here...Hold my Beer.

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    The Majesty has already changed in other parts of the world. Hopefully, we will get the updated version here soon.

    http://www.yamaha-motor.com.au/products/motorcycle/scooter/maxi/09-majesty

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