Pine Barrens...just how far South?

Discussion in 'Northeast - Greater Flugistan and home of the carp' started by avc8130, Jun 17, 2013.

  1. avc8130

    avc8130 Long timer

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    How far South do I have to get to start enjoying the Pine Barrens in NJ everyone is constantly posting awesome pictures of? I'm starting up in Newton, NJ and trying to determine if I can get away with a long day of fun on my Tenere.

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  2. 5Chord

    5Chord No Short-Term Memory

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    Although I'm sure there are closer jump off points to you, I launch at the ranger station in Atsion on 308 just north of Hammonton.

    The Pine Barrens is a huge area; over a million acres of trails and forest. It is an incredible dual-sport wonderland. I hope a scratch or two on the Tenere won't ruin your trip if you're new to sand riding. There's tons of it (some pretty deep) and it will be with you all day. At least it's soft.

    Be wary of private land....Some is clearly marked, others not so much. Last month I had a local yahoo chase us 2 miles to scream at us for trespassing. I still have no idea wtf he was talking about.
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  3. jack splash

    jack splash Two Sheds

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    It's pictures like this that give the people who want to keep us out of the woods evidence to use against us.


    Haven't You seen the threads? Do you pay any attention at all to whats going on it the PB's?

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  4. ADVwanaB

    ADVwanaB BOLD NEW AVATAR

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    First of all, all the roads in S. Jersey Pine Barrons are legal to ride on.
    Repeat, all the roads in the Pine Barrons are legal to ride on with a registered plated motorcycle.
    The area that your picture of your motorcycle is in, TYPICALLY would not be legal to ride so I ASSUME that you were in that area during a SANCTIONED event.
    RIDING SINGLE TRACK IN THE PINES IS ILLEGAL WITHOUT PROPER PERMITTING.
    SO that being said, if you were not on legal roads and buzzing around wherre you shouldn't be, then the local resident should be chasing you off his property if you were on it. I am sure you would chase the local off your property just as fast. Think ,,,,,,,, dont ruin the riding for everyone by not following the rules,,,, and then you call the local a yahoo???
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  5. 5Chord

    5Chord No Short-Term Memory

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    Sorry, to my knowledge the area I was stuck in was in a legal area (wharton), and I would never trespass on purpose ..Picture removed...
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  6. avc8130

    avc8130 Long timer

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    I didn't mean to start a thread to argue. I'm just curious where I could enjoy a bit more "adventure" than I have been able to find in North Jersey.

    I'm not too worried about setting her down in some sand. My Tenere wears crash bars, and they have already done battle with the concrete in the garage and emerged victorious!

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  7. DougZ73

    DougZ73 Fading off.........

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    AC..talk to Jason..he'l be able to tell you were to go and where not to go.
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  8. vntgmx

    vntgmx Been here awhile

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    While there may be a closer area the one that comes to my mind is Brendan Byrne State Forest which is off of Rte 70 & Rte. 72. There is a good amount of "legal" forest roads to ride which would be good for your Tenere. If you have any questions feel free to PM me and I'll certainly try to help.
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  9. avc8130

    avc8130 Long timer

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    Doug,

    Which one is Jason? LOL

    You still have that WR250? I've been thinking about adding one to the stable.

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  10. DougZ73

    DougZ73 Fading off.........

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    Mudd.

    Yep, still have the WR250, but do not get much time to ride these days.
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  11. Fish hawk

    Fish hawk n00b

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    How are all those legal roads thru that area for a street bike (DL1000 with stock tires)? I'm sure it's varied but is it a stupid idea to take my bike back there to find out for myself? I have zero dirt bike riding experience.
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  12. vtwinp

    vtwinp Long timer

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    You will be surprised what you see in the woods, I say go for it :d

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  13. mrxinpa

    mrxinpa Just Get Out and Ride !!!

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    In the hands of an experienced rider a DL1000 in PB Sand is a Hand Full in and of itself.. Trust me I know I own one and ride it Off Road ALOT!!

    My question..If you have ZERO Dirt Bike Experience why may I ask would you want to take a 500+lb bike into the SAND or "OFF ROAD"? Especially if your not setup to be there in the first place. (ie crash bars, bash plate, etc)

    and you have Stock Tires to boot. Thats just a recipe for Disaster!! IMHO.. It can be done dont get me wrong.. but the results are usually Ugly!!

    Are you just asking to trash yourself and your equipment? My advice .... Gain some basic experience of Riding Off Road. Go with others who have setup their equipment for off road riding. Try and attempt other terrain "Off Road" before attempting SAND!!! Even thou falling in sand vs gravel may sound more inviting .. Falling with a 500lb bike just isnt fun under any circumstance.

    Just my 2 cents..
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  14. loph917

    loph917 Beard Bros Racing

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    nonsense!

    450+ pounds. fully loaded with jesses and camping gear. first time in the sand. first time at an event. meteor run 2010. this wasn't just PB sand; this was deep sand!

    no one told me i should drop my boxes and gear. common sense wasn't working at the time! what an education! that was the first day i met sallydog. was going to stay and camp and ride day two. it got cold. and dark. and i had had enough sand! i went home! this was a section from a sanctioned event.
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    a year later and still haven't learnt a-thing! now it's mud instead of sand! this was no where near nj!
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    then it dawns on ya - you've been riding the wrong bike! upgrade! (and this was even further from nj!)
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  15. mrxinpa

    mrxinpa Just Get Out and Ride !!!

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    Come on Loph cut me some slack here. We all know your the exception!
    A) there a big diff between your 800GS & Pig. I mean Big VStrom
    B) you ain't running street tires
    C) you ain't right in the head to begin with!:rofl


    I'm all about getting more people out to ride with. Just don't want the guy to bite off more than he can chew. We want people to Enjoy their experiences not get so frustrated they sell their shit and never ride again!
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  16. loph917

    loph917 Beard Bros Racing

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    Ok ok.

    a) The GS 1200 is a big heavy pig and I've smelled plenty of dry clutch in the Barrens.
    b) Put knobs on then.
    c) And work on your 'you ain't right in the head' attitude! It does a lot to make the hard stuff a lot more fun!
    d) Bring a friend. They get heavy once you pick it up once or twice.

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  17. Fish hawk

    Fish hawk n00b

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    Thanks for the input. Just to clarify, I have taken it on dirt and gravel roads with decent traction with no problems. The Pine Barrens is a big area, by New Jersey standards anyway, and tempting to explore. I guess my question is are there some roads doable on my bike or am I going to hit deep sand pretty much on any of them. I don't know how to get experienced at anything without trying it but there's no point in just going out and burying the bike in the sand either.
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  18. enduro gorilla

    enduro gorilla Been here awhile

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    Some people never learn why are you compelled to post pictures of illegal riding
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  19. vntgmx

    vntgmx Been here awhile

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    There are plenty of miles of legal sand roads in Brendan Byrne. You can get a map from the ranger office and you'll be able to know what is legal and what is not from the legend on the map. Most right around the ranger station are mostly hard pack sand from all the autos that frequent them and would be a good safe way to get your feet wet.
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  20. Fish hawk

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    That's why I asked the question. I have no illusions that my V-Strom is an off road bike. Sand is really the crux of what I was asking about and if it's pretty consistent everywhere or if there are some areas that are unpaved but fine for my bike. Apparently there are some that are fine for a Harley touring bike.
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